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The housing market also needs more row houses. Those have fewer of the disadvantages of condos but unfortunately they're illegal to build in most (almost all?)

• trhway 5y ago
  Absolutely. Americans have very low skills living in close neighbors conditions like condos, and row houses would be a reasonable solution.
• jeffbee 5y ago
  Absolutely. It's a great form. Permitted in some places in California, such as these recent neighborhoods. https://www.google.com/maps/@38.0148717,-122.2775613,3a,75y,49.42h,91.98t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sKBcAeT0tcuSBPtyLYKd-bg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?hl=en https://www.google.com/maps/@38.0148717,-122.2775613,3a,75y,...
• thisrobot 5y ago
  In Seattle there are a ton for town homes being built, split lot and connected, most without any hoa. When they need work I bet you’ll see a lot of neighbors suing neighbors to fix and replace shared elements. I would never move into shared living space that didn’t have some sort of hoa to manage any the shared space.
  • tdeck 5y ago
    I'm not sure what you're describing but a traditional row house doesn't share any elements or living space. It's on a small rectangular lot facing the street and has its own walls that directly about the walls of houses on each side with no setback. Shared space like the street and sidewalk are owned by the city. (Edit: there are also of course row house duplexes that would share a roof, front stairs, etc... But many are single family homes).
    • dec0dedab0de 5y ago
      The only row house's I know of share side walls. Because they're all built in a row.
      • tdeck 5y ago
        If you look closely when walking around a neighborhood of row houses you'll find that they don't actually share side walls. Each row house has its own exterior walls with siding / exterior finish that may end up directly adjacent to the next house's exterior wall. This is apparent in areas where one row house has been torn down or is larger than its neighbor. Of course sound and fire might travel through these more easily but they share no structural elements. For an example of what I mean, take a look at SF's Outer Sunset district on street view. Edit: it's possible that terminology and construction methods vary a bit between cities so all I can say is that you can certainly build a row of houses that share no structural elements.
        • dec0dedab0de 5y ago
          I would call those townhouses, it's probably just a regional thing. The row houses I'm thinking about are in Philadelphia, and I think most other east coast cities. Occasionally you'll see one with the neighboring house(es) demolished, and there are usually remaining bricks from the missing house on the now exterior wall.
          • brewdad 5y ago
            Has anyone built a new rowhouse, like those in Philly, since the end of WWII? Serious question. I don't think they are allowed anywhere in the US anymore. Existing ones are grandfathered in.
            • dec0dedab0de 5y ago
              I just googled and found new rowhouses, and soon to be built ones in Philly. The style seems to be more modern, but the basic idea is the same.
• jjav 5y ago
  > The housing market also needs more row houses. Those have fewer of the disadvantages of condos but unfortunately they're illegal to build in most (almost all?) parts of the US. Row houses? You mean townhouses? That's the same thing as condos (shared structure, HOAs), with all the drawbacks. Nothing illegal about them, tons and tons of those are being built in the bay area.