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CC was the second time they burned people who loved their products. Pagemaker being replaced with InDesign drove a lot of us crazy too. I had been using Pagem

by bbarn 5y ago

CC was the second time they burned people who loved their products. Pagemaker being replaced with InDesign drove a lot of us crazy too. I had been using Pagemaker since it was called Aldus pagemaker, stuck with it through quark becoming more popular, then when Adobe breathed new life into it, and also offered Photoshop.. I was all in. InDesign didn't just make me leave Adobe, it made me realize it was time to give ownership of that little newspaper hobby to someone else and do something else with my extra time. I hear from friends it's now a pretty decent tool, but I just lost interest in the whole field, since it was never something I did professionally anyway.

prox 5y ago
I am currently very happy with the Affinity Suite. Lots of updates, one time payment that does not cost a fortune. It’s great for both pro work and doing some hobby work.
- pseingatl 5y ago
  No footnote support means it has limited uses. It's too bad.
- 52-6F-62 5y ago
  I worked extensively with Adobe InDesign, InCopy, and Photoshop while working in magazines. Not much on designs but worked on existing files and templates form the designers as well as integrations. After I left I was looking for a solution and couldn’t justify Adobe’s pricing for my own small project and picked up the Affinity suite for a song while it was on sale last autumn. It’s great. It doesn’t have absolutely everything and I’ve had to learn new controls and all that but it’s not hard to learn and they’ve done everything I’ve needed them to do. For a seasoned user of InDesign it’s entirely different and I could understand hesitation—I’ve known designers who tried and just couldn’t get the workflow down but for me it’s been fantastic.
  - prox 5y ago
    Absolutely, and they are only on version 1 yet, with 10 free updates.
- watersb 5y ago
  I love Affinity Photo Design Publish. Have the apps on iOS, Windows, MacOS. I am very much a hobbyist, but I'm missing things I got used to in Photoshop. If there's that one way to get a look that you've developed, it's disruptive to move to a different tool. I've found this to be more difficult for creative work than for more procedural tasks. I can roughly translate between AppleScript or shell scripting or Python. But if a particular filter or plug-in isn't there, it's a lot of work to force it through a different pipeline.
noduerme 5y ago
I was practically raised in an ad agency with QuarkXPress, but ironically, InDesign was the final death of that, too.
- adolph 5y ago
  After InDesign killed Aldus PageMaker, I say while pouring one out for desktop publishing as it was known then.
- wdb 5y ago
  Good old Quark 4. Good memories of that applications
chefandy 5y ago
Did they failed to present an acceptable transition route, or did it fail to satisfy a specific important use case, or did the interface not facilitate your workflow? I’ve done a ton of layout in InDesign and think it’s decent. I’d say the typesetting tools are fantastic, but it doesn’t exactly spark joy. I spent probably 12 hours total in PageMaker in a high school graphic design class 25 years ago, so I don’t have a real reference point. Curious what the tipping point was in your instance.

by bbarn 5y ago

prox 5y ago

I am currently very happy with the Affinity Suite. Lots of updates, one time payment that does not cost a fortune. It’s great for both pro work and doing some hobby work.

pseingatl 5y ago
No footnote support means it has limited uses. It's too bad.
52-6F-62 5y ago
I worked extensively with Adobe InDesign, InCopy, and Photoshop while working in magazines. Not much on designs but worked on existing files and templates form the designers as well as integrations. After I left I was looking for a solution and couldn’t justify Adobe’s pricing for my own small project and picked up the Affinity suite for a song while it was on sale last autumn. It’s great. It doesn’t have absolutely everything and I’ve had to learn new controls and all that but it’s not hard to learn and they’ve done everything I’ve needed them to do. For a seasoned user of InDesign it’s entirely different and I could understand hesitation—I’ve known designers who tried and just couldn’t get the workflow down but for me it’s been fantastic.
- prox 5y ago
  Absolutely, and they are only on version 1 yet, with 10 free updates.
watersb 5y ago
I love Affinity Photo Design Publish. Have the apps on iOS, Windows, MacOS. I am very much a hobbyist, but I'm missing things I got used to in Photoshop. If there's that one way to get a look that you've developed, it's disruptive to move to a different tool. I've found this to be more difficult for creative work than for more procedural tasks. I can roughly translate between AppleScript or shell scripting or Python. But if a particular filter or plug-in isn't there, it's a lot of work to force it through a different pipeline.

noduerme 5y ago

I was practically raised in an ad agency with QuarkXPress, but ironically, InDesign was the final death of that, too.

adolph 5y ago
After InDesign killed Aldus PageMaker, I say while pouring one out for desktop publishing as it was known then.
wdb 5y ago
Good old Quark 4. Good memories of that applications

chefandy 5y ago

Did they failed to present an acceptable transition route, or did it fail to satisfy a specific important use case, or did the interface not facilitate your workflow? I’ve done a ton of layout in InDesign and think it’s decent. I’d say the typesetting tools are fantastic, but it doesn’t exactly spark joy. I spent probably 12 hours total in PageMaker in a high school graphic design class 25 years ago, so I don’t have a real reference point. Curious what the tipping point was in your instance.