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A billionaire who doesn’t give two shits about money and lives in a box, who is looking at technologies to make paraplegics be able to walk again or even commun

A billionaire who doesn’t give two shits about money and lives in a box, who is looking at technologies to make paraplegics be able to walk again or even communicate. For some reason your attitude is very sceptical for no reason. I imagine you want to dismantle capitalism too while you’re at it?

sdoering 5y ago
Interesting jumps you make. Why should I want to dismantle capitalism? I have no qualms with people making money. I like to make money myself. As long as I treat others fairly and take care of others, why shouldn't I be compensated for that? I think in the end it comes down to values. I believe in things like ensuring that my negative impact on this world is as little as possible. While I try to maximize the positive impact on the other hand. There is prior scientific exploration of things like Musk is testing. With proper protocols in place to ensure minimal suffering (and yes probably some suffering can't be foregone). Why not support these? Why do his own thing without these long honed traditions in science to also take the animals' suffering into account? I would neither want to dismantle capitalism nor scientific inquiry. But I can't say that egomanical ideas (imho) thinly veiled in science for humanity don't make me want to forget my good upbringing. But I admit. I just might be wrong, his intentions might be great and only this experiment failed in a horrible way.
- cloutchaser 5y ago
  Why do you think he doesn’t take these protocols into account? Based on the word of a newspaper? Did anyone even say this? You are assuming bad intentions without any proof or response from the accused.
austinjp 5y ago
One reason work like neuralink can be unhelpful is that it can distract from other (often more promising) work. Medical experimental and academic work is (ideally) conducted in public at every stage, and is announced via peer-review. Privately developed work may also go through peer-review, but often makes heavy use of PR tactics like press conferences, puff pieces in popular media, snazzy videos, etc. Sure, the public sector can learn a lot from the private sector, but vice-versa is also true. I'm well aware of the issues with academic processes and peer-review publication, but I'm also aware of the ongoing efforts to improve them, which gives me hope. Also, this painful evolution is happening in public too, as it should be.

sdoering 5y ago

Interesting jumps you make. Why should I want to dismantle capitalism? I have no qualms with people making money. I like to make money myself. As long as I treat others fairly and take care of others, why shouldn't I be compensated for that? I think in the end it comes down to values. I believe in things like ensuring that my negative impact on this world is as little as possible. While I try to maximize the positive impact on the other hand. There is prior scientific exploration of things like Musk is testing. With proper protocols in place to ensure minimal suffering (and yes probably some suffering can't be foregone). Why not support these? Why do his own thing without these long honed traditions in science to also take the animals' suffering into account? I would neither want to dismantle capitalism nor scientific inquiry. But I can't say that egomanical ideas (imho) thinly veiled in science for humanity don't make me want to forget my good upbringing. But I admit. I just might be wrong, his intentions might be great and only this experiment failed in a horrible way.

cloutchaser 5y ago
Why do you think he doesn’t take these protocols into account? Based on the word of a newspaper? Did anyone even say this? You are assuming bad intentions without any proof or response from the accused.

austinjp 5y ago

One reason work like neuralink can be unhelpful is that it can distract from other (often more promising) work. Medical experimental and academic work is (ideally) conducted in public at every stage, and is announced via peer-review. Privately developed work may also go through peer-review, but often makes heavy use of PR tactics like press conferences, puff pieces in popular media, snazzy videos, etc. Sure, the public sector can learn a lot from the private sector, but vice-versa is also true. I'm well aware of the issues with academic processes and peer-review publication, but I'm also aware of the ongoing efforts to improve them, which gives me hope. Also, this painful evolution is happening in public too, as it should be.