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> Maybe when enough of us have been harmed? The more harm is done, the less likely that people will support a public option. After paying ruinous bills, they w

> Maybe when enough of us have been harmed? The more harm is done, the less likely that people will support a public option. After paying ruinous bills, they would resent now paying increased taxes for “other peoples’ bills”. Why should I help others when no one was around to help me when I needed it? The more polarised society gets, the less likely that any person feels they should help “freeloaders” in that society. This is a bit handwavey, but people support a large public safety net in societies that where many have already benefited from that safety net and the society is somewhat homogenous. (I live in a society with socialised healthcare, so this doesn’t apply to me. I don’t espouse these views personally.)

sueders101 5y ago
> The more harm is done, the less likely that people will support a public option. I don't think that is the case most of the time. If anything, suffering makes people more likely to be sympathetic. For instance: people with low incomes, and those without private healthcare are more likely to support socialized healthcare in the United States.[1] These are the people most likely to have been stuck with ruinous healthcare bills. [1] PDF Warning : https://www.urban.org/sites/default/files/publication/100752/what_explains_support_or_opposition_to_medicare_for_all_final_v2.pdf https://www.urban.org/sites/default/files/publication/100752...
pydry 5y ago
Even a majority of Republicans support single payer. Something like 70% of all Americans support it. This situation didnt come about as a result of democracy. This $13,000 bill is a physical manifestation of where democracy and American parasitic oligarchy clash.
- scotty79 5y ago
  It doesn't matter. As long as you don't have a support of the rich nothing gets done in this country.
  - ddingus 5y ago
    Truth. A commenter below talked about cost. That's the answer. It has to cost more to keep it this way. Then it will change.
midasuni 5y ago
Why would you need higher taxes? The NHS in 2019 cost around £2000 a head (£115b for 56 million people in England) That would be a budget of £700b, or $950b, in the US to cover 350m people. Medicare and Medicaid cost $1400b in 2019 combined, 50% more than needed to fund the NHS.

sueders101 5y ago

> The more harm is done, the less likely that people will support a public option. I don't think that is the case most of the time. If anything, suffering makes people more likely to be sympathetic. For instance: people with low incomes, and those without private healthcare are more likely to support socialized healthcare in the United States.[1] These are the people most likely to have been stuck with ruinous healthcare bills. [1] PDF Warning : https://www.urban.org/sites/default/files/publication/100752/what_explains_support_or_opposition_to_medicare_for_all_final_v2.pdf https://www.urban.org/sites/default/files/publication/100752...

pydry 5y ago

Even a majority of Republicans support single payer. Something like 70% of all Americans support it. This situation didnt come about as a result of democracy. This $13,000 bill is a physical manifestation of where democracy and American parasitic oligarchy clash.

scotty79 5y ago
It doesn't matter. As long as you don't have a support of the rich nothing gets done in this country.
- ddingus 5y ago
  Truth. A commenter below talked about cost. That's the answer. It has to cost more to keep it this way. Then it will change.

midasuni 5y ago

Why would you need higher taxes? The NHS in 2019 cost around £2000 a head (£115b for 56 million people in England) That would be a budget of £700b, or $950b, in the US to cover 350m people. Medicare and Medicaid cost $1400b in 2019 combined, 50% more than needed to fund the NHS.