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I'm pro-lsp, but comparing Emacs unfavorably to other tools "out-of-the-box" is like complaining that your LEGO set doesn't come pre-assembled.
by georgeoliver 5y ago
I'm pro-lsp, but comparing Emacs unfavorably to other tools "out-of-the-box" is like complaining that your LEGO set doesn't come pre-assembled.
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- SkeuomorphicBee 5y agoI disagree, Emacs customization is a means to an end, to get your personal perfect editor so you can better do the objective: editing texts. Customizing Emacs is not fun (for most of us), is not building Lego, it is a chore we have to go tru to get to the good part that is having a perfectly tuned editor to work with. Having a sane default out-of-the-box-experience wouldn't detract from the Emacs experience, and it is something that is missed. But then, I'm suspect to talk, I left Emacs almost two decades ago and never looked back, and among other reasons, it was exactly because it was so crappy "out-of-the-box", so every new computer I had to use meant always having to deal with that.
- comfrey 5y agoI left a decade ago and came back using doom and have gained a new respect for both emacs and lisp. Having such a configurable tool is an invitation to the subtle with an attention to detail. Free Software is so far away from the mainstream consumer culture and it provides an immeasurable value to those who invest.
- User23 5y agoHow many other programs that you stopped using two decades ago are still going strong with thriving communities?
- olau 5y agoI think they're going in the direction of having things enabled by default. It just takes time. The default experience of Emacs these days is far from the experience 20 years ago.