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Go to city hall and see if you can get a copy of the agreement Charter has with the municipality. Sometimes there will be clauses that cover minimum densities p

Go to city hall and see if you can get a copy of the agreement Charter has with the municipality. Sometimes there will be clauses that cover minimum densities per cable mile, etc. It may be possible they’re required to provide you service.

b0o 5y ago
Could you explain in further detail? I have a friend who is in a similar situation. 10 years ago he was being charged $2500 for a line from a major street to his place last year he got another quote and they're asking for $15k. He's just using cell data right now as its simply cheaper than dishing out 15k for a line and then having to be locked into a $150-$250/month internet plan.
- kfrzcode 5y ago
  This is what I'm doing -- hotspotting with a thankfully-strong signal is decent enough but... still brutal!
  - b0o 5y ago
    ugh yes. It's horrid. They're older but they want to watch netflix and modernize and stuff. But it's brutal to have to shell out that money per month.
- kkielhofner 5y ago
  They're called cable franchise agreements. Google found this example[1] with the provider in this case (Comcast) being required to extend service to any area with a minimum of 30 dwellings per cable mile. You should be able to get a copy of the franchise agreement between the municipality and provider. They're typically for cable companies but they may apply to "fiber" providers as well. Not sure about that. [1]https://www.ccgov.org/home/showpublisheddocument/3328/635960892496070000 https://www.ccgov.org/home/showpublisheddocument/3328/635960...
- kfrzcode 5y ago
  I did find my city's agreement by querying "cable franchise agreement $ISP $CITY" and was led to a PDF. There is a clause about "Standard Installation" within 125 ft being requirement, but I can't find anything about beyond that; which leads me to think they have reign to charge what they want. Also requires something about 25 residences per cable-mile, which we definitely would have here. The public school 2 blocks from me also has a franchise-agreement for dedicated fiber connection.
kfrzcode 5y ago
Great idea. I was pondering when my next city council meeting is, didn't occur to me that Charter would have an explicit agreement with the city, duh!!
- kkielhofner 5y ago
  Get a copy of the cable franchise agreement the provider has with your municipality. From what you've said in other comments if it has provisions for requiring service as long as there are "X dwellings per cable mile" or similar you can probably get your city government to require them to build it out at no cost to you or your neighbors.
  - kfrzcode 5y ago
    Awesome, it does have this provision for 25 dwellings per cable mile, and I have also made some social-media-tweets to our city council leadership and mayor because why not!

b0o 5y ago

Could you explain in further detail? I have a friend who is in a similar situation. 10 years ago he was being charged $2500 for a line from a major street to his place last year he got another quote and they're asking for $15k. He's just using cell data right now as its simply cheaper than dishing out 15k for a line and then having to be locked into a $150-$250/month internet plan.

kfrzcode 5y ago
This is what I'm doing -- hotspotting with a thankfully-strong signal is decent enough but... still brutal!
- b0o 5y ago
  ugh yes. It's horrid. They're older but they want to watch netflix and modernize and stuff. But it's brutal to have to shell out that money per month.
kkielhofner 5y ago
They're called cable franchise agreements. Google found this example[1] with the provider in this case (Comcast) being required to extend service to any area with a minimum of 30 dwellings per cable mile. You should be able to get a copy of the franchise agreement between the municipality and provider. They're typically for cable companies but they may apply to "fiber" providers as well. Not sure about that. [1]https://www.ccgov.org/home/showpublisheddocument/3328/635960892496070000 https://www.ccgov.org/home/showpublisheddocument/3328/635960...
kfrzcode 5y ago
I did find my city's agreement by querying "cable franchise agreement $ISP $CITY" and was led to a PDF. There is a clause about "Standard Installation" within 125 ft being requirement, but I can't find anything about beyond that; which leads me to think they have reign to charge what they want. Also requires something about 25 residences per cable-mile, which we definitely would have here. The public school 2 blocks from me also has a franchise-agreement for dedicated fiber connection.

kfrzcode 5y ago

Great idea. I was pondering when my next city council meeting is, didn't occur to me that Charter would have an explicit agreement with the city, duh!!

kkielhofner 5y ago
Get a copy of the cable franchise agreement the provider has with your municipality. From what you've said in other comments if it has provisions for requiring service as long as there are "X dwellings per cable mile" or similar you can probably get your city government to require them to build it out at no cost to you or your neighbors.
- kfrzcode 5y ago
  Awesome, it does have this provision for 25 dwellings per cable mile, and I have also made some social-media-tweets to our city council leadership and mayor because why not!