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Note that Debkafile is biased (and usually proudly so). The article is editorialized, but not wrong. The Calcalist article says what they say it does -- that t
by chaosite 5y ago
Note that Debkafile is biased (and usually proudly so).
The article is editorialized, but not wrong. The Calcalist article says what they say it does -- that the Israeli Police hacked many phones, without oversight, and some of those phones were related to the Netanyahu trials.
Also recall that most of the police personnel involved were appointed by Netanyahu's goverment, and were praised by Netanyahu himself at the time of their appointment.
- ggm 5y agoCould this derail the Netanyahu trial? Political comeback trail because the police used tools you empowered them to use, to spy on you in a way which undermined the integrity of the evidence used to show how corrupt you are.. a modern-day virtuous circle?
- recuter 5y agoNope. Trial will continue and simultaneously and seperatly they'll be investigating this.
- pessimizer 5y agoTo spy on prosecution witnesses, rather. So more like the witnesses against you were spied on by the organization you controlled until recently, so the trial has to be called off as hopelessly compromised. If I'm reading correctly.
- chaosite 5y agoThe "Fruit of the poisonous tree" doctrine is not absolute worldwide as it is in the USA. Evidence obtained illegally is not automatically disregarded in Israel, though it still might be.
- pvg 5y agoIs there an English version of the relevant Calcalist article? They're the original source so if that exists it would probably make a better post.
- chaosite 5y agoThat would be this one: https://www.calcalistech.com/ctech/articles/0,7340,L-3928830,00.html https://www.calcalistech.com/ctech/articles/0,7340,L-3928830... It's the latest in a series of articles by Tomer Ganon. (previously posted as: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30241488 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30241488)
- jmspring 5y agoDebkafile is an interesting site to read. During (before and after) the second Iraq war there was a lot of rumor and speculation that was way outside mainstream speculation. Several ended up being wrong.
- ars 5y agoI remember them from back then - they had info WAY before anyone else, but not everything turned out correct. They had some amazing sources in the military, but they published everything, without trying to verify it first (which I guess would be impossible given the nature of their sources). From what I remember they never lied or tried to spin articles, but they did not have a strong verification step.
- aaronbrethorst 5y agoMore on this: https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/debkafile/ https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/debkafile/