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> They’re actually both right-wing by global standards Depends entirely on the issue. On foreign wars, tax policy, or gutting the social safety net, they're bo

> They’re actually both right-wing by global standards Depends entirely on the issue. On foreign wars, tax policy, or gutting the social safety net, they're both right-wing. On immigration, they're left or extreme left - the Republican party, despite any rhetoric to the contrary, continues the current record-high levels of legal immigration, while the Democratic party doesn't want to enforce any immigration law, and is even giving non-citizens the vote: https://www.nytimes.com/2021/11/23/nyregion/noncitizen-voting-rights-nyc.html https://www.nytimes.com/2021/11/23/nyregion/noncitizen-votin...

KerrAvon 5y ago
Neither party supports open borders last I checked. > the Republican party, despite any rhetoric to the contrary, continues the current record-high levels of legal immigration What about those murderous caravans from South America Fox News keeps telling us about every time we have an election? GOPs paving the road for those? > while the Democratic party doesn't want to enforce any immigration law, and is even giving non-citizens the vote This is completely false. Democrats are enforcing immigration laws, for better or worse. They're just not doing it as inhumanely as Trump was. And New York City is not the Democratic Party.
- jevoten 5y ago
  > What about those murderous caravans from South America Fox News keeps telling us about Rhetoric. Look at mostly-absent-from-media immigration numbers, and see if you notice any dramatic drops during Republican administrations. > Democrats are enforcing immigration laws, for better or worse. What are sanctuary cities if not deliberate impediments to enforcing immigration laws? And it's not just sanctuary cities - the number of areas where immigration law isn't enforced is rising: https://www.nytimes.com/2021/10/27/us/politics/biden-immigration-ice-schools-hospitals.html https://www.nytimes.com/2021/10/27/us/politics/biden-immigra...
  - dragonwriter 5y ago
    > What are sanctuary cities if not deliberate impediments to enforcing immigration laws? Sanctuary cities are not impediments to the federal government enforcing federal immigration laws, they are cities that decline to expending limited local resources to make local law enforcement and social services jobs harder by alienating local immigrant communities by actively enforcing federal laws that it is well established that it is not the responsibility of state or local officials to actively enforce.
inopinatus 5y ago
Open borders are a right-wing preference too, since they directly support a laissez-faire economy with itinerant, casual, and seasonal workers. Both major US parties understand this, which is why once again you get the same policy in two different flavours. Neither would dream of suggesting any of these workers should control the means of production.

KerrAvon 5y ago

Neither party supports open borders last I checked. > the Republican party, despite any rhetoric to the contrary, continues the current record-high levels of legal immigration What about those murderous caravans from South America Fox News keeps telling us about every time we have an election? GOPs paving the road for those? > while the Democratic party doesn't want to enforce any immigration law, and is even giving non-citizens the vote This is completely false. Democrats are enforcing immigration laws, for better or worse. They're just not doing it as inhumanely as Trump was. And New York City is not the Democratic Party.

jevoten 5y ago
> What about those murderous caravans from South America Fox News keeps telling us about Rhetoric. Look at mostly-absent-from-media immigration numbers, and see if you notice any dramatic drops during Republican administrations. > Democrats are enforcing immigration laws, for better or worse. What are sanctuary cities if not deliberate impediments to enforcing immigration laws? And it's not just sanctuary cities - the number of areas where immigration law isn't enforced is rising: https://www.nytimes.com/2021/10/27/us/politics/biden-immigration-ice-schools-hospitals.html https://www.nytimes.com/2021/10/27/us/politics/biden-immigra...
- dragonwriter 5y ago
  > What are sanctuary cities if not deliberate impediments to enforcing immigration laws? Sanctuary cities are not impediments to the federal government enforcing federal immigration laws, they are cities that decline to expending limited local resources to make local law enforcement and social services jobs harder by alienating local immigrant communities by actively enforcing federal laws that it is well established that it is not the responsibility of state or local officials to actively enforce.

inopinatus 5y ago

Open borders are a right-wing preference too, since they directly support a laissez-faire economy with itinerant, casual, and seasonal workers. Both major US parties understand this, which is why once again you get the same policy in two different flavours. Neither would dream of suggesting any of these workers should control the means of production.