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Advertisers, like all entities, are as free to do what they like as we allow them to be. They don't have to be a part of the conversation, we don't have to care

Advertisers, like all entities, are as free to do what they like as we allow them to be. They don't have to be a part of the conversation, we don't have to care about advertisers.

shadowgovt 5y ago
Cutting them out makes it more likely that the resulting law won't actually work IMO. Nobody understands the ad industry better than advertisers. Incentivize them to compromise and we're more likely to get something that actually works than incentivizing them to get creative in finding legal loopholes.
- account42 5y ago
  I don't want to "understand" the ad industry, I want them gone - at least from my life.
- reillyse 5y ago
  That sounds like Stockholm Syndrome to me. Here is a better alternative. Make a law, enforce it. We don't ask murderers for input on murder laws.
  - shadowgovt 5y ago
    Advertisers aren't murderers. Not hardly. In fact, I'd go so far as to say the comparison suggests an extremist position that should have no business dictating the law on the topic (still a position worth hearing while seeking compromise, of course).
    - selfhoster11 5y ago
      They aren't murderers, but they sure are bullies [0], time wasters, attention thieves and they try to manipulate you into changing your mind about your choices. Maybe the ideal is that it's none of those things, that advertising in theory should be about matching consumers with the product they'd like best - but the fact is that in the age of the Internet, it's been nothing but unwelcome manipulation, and everyone puts up with it because it's the only funding model that's "free" at the point of use. It's about time for them to lose some power. [0]: https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/461383-people-are-taking-the-piss-out-of-you-everyday-they https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/461383-people-are-taking-th...

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Advertisers, like all entities, are as free to do what they like as we allow them to be. They don't have to be a part of the conversation, we don't have to care

by staticassertion 5y ago

Advertisers, like all entities, are as free to do what they like as we allow them to be. They don't have to be a part of the conversation, we don't have to care about advertisers.

shadowgovt 5y ago
Cutting them out makes it more likely that the resulting law won't actually work IMO. Nobody understands the ad industry better than advertisers. Incentivize them to compromise and we're more likely to get something that actually works than incentivizing them to get creative in finding legal loopholes.
- account42 5y ago
  I don't want to "understand" the ad industry, I want them gone - at least from my life.
- reillyse 5y ago
  That sounds like Stockholm Syndrome to me. Here is a better alternative. Make a law, enforce it. We don't ask murderers for input on murder laws.
  - shadowgovt 5y ago
    Advertisers aren't murderers. Not hardly. In fact, I'd go so far as to say the comparison suggests an extremist position that should have no business dictating the law on the topic (still a position worth hearing while seeking compromise, of course).
    - selfhoster11 5y ago
      They aren't murderers, but they sure are bullies [0], time wasters, attention thieves and they try to manipulate you into changing your mind about your choices. Maybe the ideal is that it's none of those things, that advertising in theory should be about matching consumers with the product they'd like best - but the fact is that in the age of the Internet, it's been nothing but unwelcome manipulation, and everyone puts up with it because it's the only funding model that's "free" at the point of use. It's about time for them to lose some power. [0]: https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/461383-people-are-taking-the-piss-out-of-you-everyday-they https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/461383-people-are-taking-th...