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“ at least in those countries you don't have to resign for what you do in your bedroom, consensually, behind closed doors...” No, you go to jail instead for of

“ at least in those countries you don't have to resign for what you do in your bedroom, consensually, behind closed doors...” No, you go to jail instead for offending someone. But you still have a job to pay off your court debts with (the US, thankfully, doesn’t have looser pays courts). As to the rest of your comment, I love it. Any criticism of the EU or Brussels is far right extremism and must be ignored. Its working out great for Trudeau smearing protestors and ignoring them.

peoplefromibiza 5y ago
> No, you go to jail instead for offending someone It's pretty hard to believe it. Can you point me to some example ? Is it what happened to you? Are you sure it was just an offense? In which country did it happen? > Any criticism of the EU or Brussels is far right extremism and must be ignored I was addressing the wording. Far right movements in Europe use the same slogans, they are pretty easy to spot, because they are the same in any European language.
- tagoregrtst 5y ago
  Italy, apologia of fascism https://it.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apologia_del_fascismo https://it.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apologia_del_fascismo Austria apologia of national socialism https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Verbotsgesetz_1947 https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Verbotsgesetz_1947 Germany’s the same Finland two years for tweeting a picture of the bible: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-60111140 https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-60111140 Baltics passed similar laws for communist symbols (so no Che shirts in Vilnus!) These are all laws against offending someone’s sensibilities. And I could go on, I haven’t even mentioned the UK! Now, apologia of fascists and commies is unwise. But in the US it is constitutionally protected.
  - CRConrad 5y ago
    Calling hate speech and attempts to reintroduce an ideology that sank a continent into war and killed millions a bland "offending someone" is so obviously bullshit that it's a marvel to me how you could write that without disintegrating into a puddle of shame. Or maybe you did -- do you, at long last, have some sense of decency left?
    - tagoregrtst 5y ago
      And you have the gall to call Orban an authoritarian.
      - CRConrad 5y ago
        What's more remarkable is that you have the gall to claim he's anything else.
  - eeronen 5y ago
    "two years for tweeting a picture of the bible" That's a bit of a oversimplification. What she was prosecuted (not convicted) on was definitely not a just a simple picture of the bible. Besides, that's only one of the charges. Other charges come from the times she implied homosexuality to be a genetic degeneration and later on called homosexuality a disorder. Also, two years of jail is the maximum for that type of crime. IF she is found guilty, she will almost definitely get some relatively small fine. It's understandable the christian folks want to paint this whole case as just "two years for tweeting a picture of a bible". But it's much more nuanced than that. Additionally the trial is still ongoing and it's very much unclear what the outcome will be. And this case is still handled in district court, I highly doubt it stays on that level. There's a lot of analysis and comments of the trials in the newspapers, but they are all in Finnish. I found this one in English that explains the case a bit better than "two years for tweeting a picture of the bible". https://yle.fi/news/3-12284380 https://yle.fi/news/3-12284380

peoplefromibiza 5y ago

> No, you go to jail instead for offending someone It's pretty hard to believe it. Can you point me to some example ? Is it what happened to you? Are you sure it was just an offense? In which country did it happen? > Any criticism of the EU or Brussels is far right extremism and must be ignored I was addressing the wording. Far right movements in Europe use the same slogans, they are pretty easy to spot, because they are the same in any European language.

tagoregrtst 5y ago
Italy, apologia of fascism https://it.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apologia_del_fascismo https://it.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apologia_del_fascismo Austria apologia of national socialism https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Verbotsgesetz_1947 https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Verbotsgesetz_1947 Germany’s the same Finland two years for tweeting a picture of the bible: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-60111140 https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-60111140 Baltics passed similar laws for communist symbols (so no Che shirts in Vilnus!) These are all laws against offending someone’s sensibilities. And I could go on, I haven’t even mentioned the UK! Now, apologia of fascists and commies is unwise. But in the US it is constitutionally protected.
- CRConrad 5y ago
  Calling hate speech and attempts to reintroduce an ideology that sank a continent into war and killed millions a bland "offending someone" is so obviously bullshit that it's a marvel to me how you could write that without disintegrating into a puddle of shame. Or maybe you did -- do you, at long last, have some sense of decency left?
  - tagoregrtst 5y ago
    And you have the gall to call Orban an authoritarian.
    - CRConrad 5y ago
      What's more remarkable is that you have the gall to claim he's anything else.
- eeronen 5y ago
  "two years for tweeting a picture of the bible" That's a bit of a oversimplification. What she was prosecuted (not convicted) on was definitely not a just a simple picture of the bible. Besides, that's only one of the charges. Other charges come from the times she implied homosexuality to be a genetic degeneration and later on called homosexuality a disorder. Also, two years of jail is the maximum for that type of crime. IF she is found guilty, she will almost definitely get some relatively small fine. It's understandable the christian folks want to paint this whole case as just "two years for tweeting a picture of a bible". But it's much more nuanced than that. Additionally the trial is still ongoing and it's very much unclear what the outcome will be. And this case is still handled in district court, I highly doubt it stays on that level. There's a lot of analysis and comments of the trials in the newspapers, but they are all in Finnish. I found this one in English that explains the case a bit better than "two years for tweeting a picture of the bible". https://yle.fi/news/3-12284380 https://yle.fi/news/3-12284380