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I’ll call Infosys out. I’ve worked with people from there who literally did not know how to program. They were moved off quickly. There are some solid people th

I’ll call Infosys out. I’ve worked with people from there who literally did not know how to program. They were moved off quickly. There are some solid people there but hard to find in my experience. Akvelon consultants have been consistently better than some FTEs in my experience.

kelnos 5y ago
I don't understand how Infosys still exists. Perhaps this is just my bubble showing, but it seems pretty well-known that they're a scam factory.
- AdrianB1 5y ago
  It is not just them and it is a game everyone plays, including their clients. I had several engagements with them on various projects, we had to use them because the internal headcount was limited, while for external suppliers there was no limit, so we had up to 5 external people for every of ours. Most of these kind of companies behave the same, we had small specialized suppliers that provided good quality and value for the work, but the companies on a comment below are all in the same bucket of garbage.
- manuelabeledo 5y ago
  Because it's not only Infosys, there is a whole industry of selling underskilled labour for the cheap. I haven't worked with Infosys, but I have with other four companies providing similar services, and they all do the same. It's extremely frustrating, because the budget folks only look at the bottom line and would sign contracts with any of these firms, leaving hiring managers with the responsibility of taking subpar consultants in.
thrower123 5y ago
Infosys, Cognizant, Gap Gemini, TCS, ATT Global Services, Accenture, HCL, Kyndryl, and on, and on, and on goes the list.
zo1 5y ago
The dirty secret in the industry is that there is a gigantic shortage of devs that can do something or anything. And the clients just don't want to pay the rates that help make that shortage go away. They all want it on the cheap and are spoiled by fancy "SAAS" salesmen that "magically" solve all their problems for "$30-$500" a month, because their SAAS is always the answer. Literally sitting with a client right now that has gone through at least 5 different CRM systems, each time paying a 3rd party boutique marketing agency to "set it up and migrate it" for them (along with some new ad-campaign software). 3 different attempts at a data warehouse (because they have a gazillion disparate white label and SAAS products in their company with no access to any of the data) and someone told them they need a "Data Warehouse Cluster", when they barely have 20k users. I could rant for hours because the industry is broken. Oh, and they literally blank stare you in the face as you explain things genuinely with detail and care, and then turn around saying they'll just "consult with their marketing agency" to get their advice. But hey, let's all blame "consulting" companies because they try make something useful using the bottom of the barrel devs. *Not defending Infosys or Accenture and their like, though, fully agreed there.

kelnos 5y ago

I don't understand how Infosys still exists. Perhaps this is just my bubble showing, but it seems pretty well-known that they're a scam factory.

AdrianB1 5y ago
It is not just them and it is a game everyone plays, including their clients. I had several engagements with them on various projects, we had to use them because the internal headcount was limited, while for external suppliers there was no limit, so we had up to 5 external people for every of ours. Most of these kind of companies behave the same, we had small specialized suppliers that provided good quality and value for the work, but the companies on a comment below are all in the same bucket of garbage.
manuelabeledo 5y ago
Because it's not only Infosys, there is a whole industry of selling underskilled labour for the cheap. I haven't worked with Infosys, but I have with other four companies providing similar services, and they all do the same. It's extremely frustrating, because the budget folks only look at the bottom line and would sign contracts with any of these firms, leaving hiring managers with the responsibility of taking subpar consultants in.

thrower123 5y ago

Infosys, Cognizant, Gap Gemini, TCS, ATT Global Services, Accenture, HCL, Kyndryl, and on, and on, and on goes the list.

zo1 5y ago

The dirty secret in the industry is that there is a gigantic shortage of devs that can do something or anything. And the clients just don't want to pay the rates that help make that shortage go away. They all want it on the cheap and are spoiled by fancy "SAAS" salesmen that "magically" solve all their problems for "$30-$500" a month, because their SAAS is always the answer. Literally sitting with a client right now that has gone through at least 5 different CRM systems, each time paying a 3rd party boutique marketing agency to "set it up and migrate it" for them (along with some new ad-campaign software). 3 different attempts at a data warehouse (because they have a gazillion disparate white label and SAAS products in their company with no access to any of the data) and someone told them they need a "Data Warehouse Cluster", when they barely have 20k users. I could rant for hours because the industry is broken. Oh, and they literally blank stare you in the face as you explain things genuinely with detail and care, and then turn around saying they'll just "consult with their marketing agency" to get their advice. But hey, let's all blame "consulting" companies because they try make something useful using the bottom of the barrel devs. *Not defending Infosys or Accenture and their like, though, fully agreed there.