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So imposter syndrome is justified sometimes is what you're saying?

by nebulous_two 5y ago

Swizec 5y ago
To quote a meme: “You all can’t have impostor syndrome, some of you gotta just be bad at your jobs”
- dgb23 5y ago
  I like this quote. While I think impostor syndrome is real, I also can't believe that so many actually have it (judging from media mostly). I cannot personally relate either. I can relate with insecurity, anxiety and so on _very_ much. But much of that has been based on a lack of experience, practice and knowledge. When those things can heal "impostor syndrome" then it's not impostor syndrome - you'd still have it. There is also a thing that comes up after more experience rather than less: "nobody has a clue what they're doing"-syndrome. The idea or realization that real competence or knowledge is a fad in the first place. Everyone just tries really hard to figure stuff out, but nobody _really_ achieves that. There's confidence, good communication and so on, but those things are orthogonal to what I'm describing. And I include very smart and capable people here. In the end it's all based on a "wishy-washy, good enough, it works so far, those are my assumptions" kind of deal. Not everything is impostor syndrome. Much of it is some version of any of the above, or just plain humbleness.
  - Swizec 5y ago
    > "nobody has a clue what they're doing"-syndrome The more advanced you are in your career, the more your job should be to solve novel problems. Things you, at least, haven't solved before. Preferably things nobody has solved before. If all you're doing is work you already know how to do, you should find a more interesting job imo.
- vsareto 5y ago
  If we're going that route, then there are definitely a good number of jobs that will make you look bad no matter how good you really are. Companies can be imposters too; we just like to blame the workers first.
- phs318u 5y ago
  I once heard it put this way, “If you’re absolutely certain that you have impostor syndrome, then you probably don’t have impostor syndrome.”

So imposter syndrome is justified sometimes is what you're saying?

Swizec 5y ago

To quote a meme: “You all can’t have impostor syndrome, some of you gotta just be bad at your jobs”

dgb23 5y ago
I like this quote. While I think impostor syndrome is real, I also can't believe that so many actually have it (judging from media mostly). I cannot personally relate either. I can relate with insecurity, anxiety and so on _very_ much. But much of that has been based on a lack of experience, practice and knowledge. When those things can heal "impostor syndrome" then it's not impostor syndrome - you'd still have it. There is also a thing that comes up after more experience rather than less: "nobody has a clue what they're doing"-syndrome. The idea or realization that real competence or knowledge is a fad in the first place. Everyone just tries really hard to figure stuff out, but nobody _really_ achieves that. There's confidence, good communication and so on, but those things are orthogonal to what I'm describing. And I include very smart and capable people here. In the end it's all based on a "wishy-washy, good enough, it works so far, those are my assumptions" kind of deal. Not everything is impostor syndrome. Much of it is some version of any of the above, or just plain humbleness.
- Swizec 5y ago
  > "nobody has a clue what they're doing"-syndrome The more advanced you are in your career, the more your job should be to solve novel problems. Things you, at least, haven't solved before. Preferably things nobody has solved before. If all you're doing is work you already know how to do, you should find a more interesting job imo.
vsareto 5y ago
If we're going that route, then there are definitely a good number of jobs that will make you look bad no matter how good you really are. Companies can be imposters too; we just like to blame the workers first.
phs318u 5y ago
I once heard it put this way, “If you’re absolutely certain that you have impostor syndrome, then you probably don’t have impostor syndrome.”