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While I'm not at all surprised that foreign students could easily get sucked into this kind of scheme what really surprises me is that an American CS grad would
by tgflynn 5y ago
While I'm not at all surprised that foreign students could easily get sucked into this kind of scheme what really surprises me is that an American CS grad would not have much better options, especially with all the hype about "lack of workers".
- paxys 5y agoI know at least a handful of people who graduated out of my CS program at a very reputed university but probably couldn't do fizzbuzz. And even otherwise, in recent years companies have massively cut down on new grad hiring because they don't want to spend time and money training them. Much easier to poach an experienced engineer from a competitor instead.
- tgflynn 5y agoThat strikes me as rather unlikely. Surely to pass at least some courses some not completely trivial amount of coding was required. Maybe the issue is the context in which the "Fibuzz" test is given is so different from that of class work or real work that the candidate just isn't used to operating under those conditions. I can especially see that if you're expected to recite every line of code perfectly over the phone or write them out on a whiteboard in front of a bunch of people.
- simmanian 5y agoI intend to write a personal take on this topic as well. I am not a CS grad, but I definitely know CS grads who struggled to find work after college. One went to a bootcamp and still couldn't find a job. In my view, we tend to focus on the people that make it easily than those who struggle to get close.