That's also the reason I don't play games like these. Programming scratches the same itch for me and has fewer limitations. Still I enjoy the absolutely insane

That's also the reason I don't play games like these. Programming scratches the same itch for me and has fewer limitations. Still I enjoy the absolutely insane creations of some people in those games. I'll never forget the Doom-style 3D engine[0] someone created inside Factorio, with (iirc) a clever configuration of trains as a huge graphical display. [0] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0bAuP0gO5pc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0bAuP0gO5pc