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> And that is what I mean by overthrow. You're using "overthrow" in a manner that isn't consistent with the definition - deliberately, I suspect.

dghlsakjg 5y ago
My use of overthrow is as follows: an unelected group removing a legitimately elected governing body from power via direct force or threats. They haven’t stormed parliament with guns. They have used force to inflict measurable economic damage and threatened tocontinue it until their demands were met, and are threatening to escalate and continue their economic damage. As a side note: I don’t disagree with everything this group stands for. I think that if we are to have mandates, their should be explicit achievable goals tied to them. If they said border requirements will be lifted when the ICU availability rises above 5%, that makes sense to me. What I don’t agree with is that anonymous money from abroad should be allowed to be used by political organizations, especially ones with explicit goals of regime change.
- lp0_on_fire 5y ago
  What _threats_ are being made? The protesters are demanding (asking) that the government _resign_. > They have used force to inflict measurable economic damage and threatened to continue it until their demands were met. The "measurable economic damage" pales in comparison to the economic damage causes by draconian lockdown policies promogulated by western governments.
- s1artibartfast 5y ago
  >My use of overthrow is as follows: an unelected group removing a legitimately elected governing body from power via direct force or threats. There is no force, so that leaves threats. This is classic non-violent civil disobedience. You can say it is illegal - it is!. You can disagree with it - not all civil disobedience is good. Just don't conflate the threat of civil disobedience with a threat of violent revolution or overthrow. Threats aren't inherently illegal or violent. You can threaten to not vote for a politician unless they approve your policy. You can threaten to not go to work unless they resign. Crossing over into non-violent civil disobedience, you can threaten to illegally sit in a bus seat or road until a policy changes. This is a world different than threatening to hurt someone unless you get what you want. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_disobedience https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_disobedience

dghlsakjg 5y ago

My use of overthrow is as follows: an unelected group removing a legitimately elected governing body from power via direct force or threats. They haven’t stormed parliament with guns. They have used force to inflict measurable economic damage and threatened tocontinue it until their demands were met, and are threatening to escalate and continue their economic damage. As a side note: I don’t disagree with everything this group stands for. I think that if we are to have mandates, their should be explicit achievable goals tied to them. If they said border requirements will be lifted when the ICU availability rises above 5%, that makes sense to me. What I don’t agree with is that anonymous money from abroad should be allowed to be used by political organizations, especially ones with explicit goals of regime change.

lp0_on_fire 5y ago
What _threats_ are being made? The protesters are demanding (asking) that the government _resign_. > They have used force to inflict measurable economic damage and threatened to continue it until their demands were met. The "measurable economic damage" pales in comparison to the economic damage causes by draconian lockdown policies promogulated by western governments.
s1artibartfast 5y ago
>My use of overthrow is as follows: an unelected group removing a legitimately elected governing body from power via direct force or threats. There is no force, so that leaves threats. This is classic non-violent civil disobedience. You can say it is illegal - it is!. You can disagree with it - not all civil disobedience is good. Just don't conflate the threat of civil disobedience with a threat of violent revolution or overthrow. Threats aren't inherently illegal or violent. You can threaten to not vote for a politician unless they approve your policy. You can threaten to not go to work unless they resign. Crossing over into non-violent civil disobedience, you can threaten to illegally sit in a bus seat or road until a policy changes. This is a world different than threatening to hurt someone unless you get what you want. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_disobedience https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_disobedience