If I want to make a serious effort to know the truth of a controversial matter, I make it a point to argue without using fallacies or relying on cognitive biase

If I want to make a serious effort to know the truth of a controversial matter, I make it a point to argue without using fallacies or relying on cognitive biases. This kind of arguing tends to work better in traditional forums instead of newsy forums like HN and Reddit. One can spend a long time researching one's argument and come back several days later with a well researched and formed argument and bump the thread back to the top. In HN and Reddit, by the time one has done this research, everyone has moved on.