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> Heart Problems After Covid Are Much Worse for the Vaccinated, Nature Study Shows It might as well be that those who are vaccinated and still get sick are jus

by f6v 5y ago

> Heart Problems After Covid Are Much Worse for the Vaccinated, Nature Study Shows It might as well be that those who are vaccinated and still get sick are just predisposed to heart complications. Saying they get those because they were vaccinated is a fallacy.

qwertox 5y ago
Didn't even request his "findings" to be peer reviewed. Or ask the authors to clarify his questions. Just assumes some stuff and hits it out with a catchy headline.
- hedora 5y ago
  Yeah. The “analysis” hurt my head. There’s lots of extrapolation from a table in someone else’s supplementary results. Maybe there were flaws in the original paper’s statistics (didn’t read it), but that doesn’t imply some implausible and tangentially related theory is correct.
- f6v 5y ago
  That’s a good point. Not asking the authors to clarify confusing parts is considered a dick move in academia.
gypsyharlot 5y ago
No, it's based on a study with a sample size of 42 million. See https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.12.23.21268276v1 https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.12.23.21268276v...
- mlyle 5y ago
  > > > This blog post argues that the risk is even higher for COVID after vaccine. (Argues so poorly that it doesn't really deserve a response, but I'll follow this digression) > > It might as well be that those who are vaccinated and still get sick are just predisposed to heart complications. > No, it's based on a study with a sample size of 42 million If someone is in poor health, they may be A) more likely to get COVID, despite being vaccinated, AND B) more likely to have heart problems In turn, it doesn't matter what the sample size of your study is. A & B will be correlated, even though there's no causal relationship between vaccination+covid->heart problems; the causal relationship is between "poor health" and "heart problems".

by f6v 5y ago

qwertox 5y ago

Didn't even request his "findings" to be peer reviewed. Or ask the authors to clarify his questions. Just assumes some stuff and hits it out with a catchy headline.

hedora 5y ago
Yeah. The “analysis” hurt my head. There’s lots of extrapolation from a table in someone else’s supplementary results. Maybe there were flaws in the original paper’s statistics (didn’t read it), but that doesn’t imply some implausible and tangentially related theory is correct.
f6v 5y ago
That’s a good point. Not asking the authors to clarify confusing parts is considered a dick move in academia.

gypsyharlot 5y ago

No, it's based on a study with a sample size of 42 million. See https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.12.23.21268276v1 https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.12.23.21268276v...

mlyle 5y ago
> > > This blog post argues that the risk is even higher for COVID after vaccine. (Argues so poorly that it doesn't really deserve a response, but I'll follow this digression) > > It might as well be that those who are vaccinated and still get sick are just predisposed to heart complications. > No, it's based on a study with a sample size of 42 million If someone is in poor health, they may be A) more likely to get COVID, despite being vaccinated, AND B) more likely to have heart problems In turn, it doesn't matter what the sample size of your study is. A & B will be correlated, even though there's no causal relationship between vaccination+covid->heart problems; the causal relationship is between "poor health" and "heart problems".