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The rate at which new trees grow. The ratio of carbon absorbed by a mature tree over the carbon another new tree (or trees) can absorb occupyig the same space o

by gtsop 5y ago

The rate at which new trees grow. The ratio of carbon absorbed by a mature tree over the carbon another new tree (or trees) can absorb occupyig the same space on the ground

dataflow 5y ago
Earth has so much land that you could plant trees in though?
- ClumsyPilot 5y ago
  It really doesn't, most suitable land is used for farming already (sahara and siberian are not suitable) Thats why specieces are dissapearing, because they have nowhere to live It is literally impossible to plant enough trees to stop climate change.
  - dataflow 5y ago
    You're misunderstanding what I wrote. What I claimed was: (a) There is (at present) sufficient land for us to be able to sustainably plant enough trees to supply our need for such composites (including to the extent that they may substitute for our consumption of plastics), and (b) Planting trees as part of this practice would likely be (non-trivially) beneficial in the fight climate change. I did not claim that: (c) Planting trees would somehow be sufficient to single-handedly solve climate change without us having to change any other of our current practices (like farming), or (d) The planet would always have room for sufficient trees (for any purpose) regardless of how long current trends continue or how badly we continue to destroy more and more of the environment.
gtsop 5y ago
@dataflow but then you are dipping into the issue of artificially modyfing biomes. Putting forests where they didn't exist before, again, i don't know, but i would assume this could alter the local ecosystem and it should be done with care. Not just make the whole planet a forest. That's why i was concerned with using the same space.
- dataflow 5y ago
  I don't think you need to make the whole planet a forest for this to be feasible. Yes we use a lot of carbon, but not THAT much carbon. It would mess with some ecosystems (obviously), which is not ideal, but it wouldn't be that drastic of an alteration to the planet as a whole. Also, the claim wasn't that this is perfect. Just that it's be (much) better than what we're doing currently.
- vbezhenar 5y ago
  What's wrong with making planet a forest? Right now we're shaping a planet into a concrete plain. I'd prefer forest any day.
  - gtsop 5y ago
    I just said it should be done with care
- mcv 5y ago
  A lot of the planet used to be forested that currently isn't. Many ecosystems have already been changed by removing forests, among other things. We can plant a lot of trees before we reach the point that we need to plant forests where none have been before. And some ecosystems definitely could be improved by planting forests. They can halt desertification, for example.

by gtsop 5y ago

The rate at which new trees grow. The ratio of carbon absorbed by a mature tree over the carbon another new tree (or trees) can absorb occupyig the same space on the ground

dataflow 5y ago

Earth has so much land that you could plant trees in though?

ClumsyPilot 5y ago
It really doesn't, most suitable land is used for farming already (sahara and siberian are not suitable) Thats why specieces are dissapearing, because they have nowhere to live It is literally impossible to plant enough trees to stop climate change.
- dataflow 5y ago
  You're misunderstanding what I wrote. What I claimed was: (a) There is (at present) sufficient land for us to be able to sustainably plant enough trees to supply our need for such composites (including to the extent that they may substitute for our consumption of plastics), and (b) Planting trees as part of this practice would likely be (non-trivially) beneficial in the fight climate change. I did not claim that: (c) Planting trees would somehow be sufficient to single-handedly solve climate change without us having to change any other of our current practices (like farming), or (d) The planet would always have room for sufficient trees (for any purpose) regardless of how long current trends continue or how badly we continue to destroy more and more of the environment.

gtsop 5y ago

@dataflow but then you are dipping into the issue of artificially modyfing biomes. Putting forests where they didn't exist before, again, i don't know, but i would assume this could alter the local ecosystem and it should be done with care. Not just make the whole planet a forest. That's why i was concerned with using the same space.

dataflow 5y ago
I don't think you need to make the whole planet a forest for this to be feasible. Yes we use a lot of carbon, but not THAT much carbon. It would mess with some ecosystems (obviously), which is not ideal, but it wouldn't be that drastic of an alteration to the planet as a whole. Also, the claim wasn't that this is perfect. Just that it's be (much) better than what we're doing currently.
vbezhenar 5y ago
What's wrong with making planet a forest? Right now we're shaping a planet into a concrete plain. I'd prefer forest any day.
- gtsop 5y ago
  I just said it should be done with care
mcv 5y ago
A lot of the planet used to be forested that currently isn't. Many ecosystems have already been changed by removing forests, among other things. We can plant a lot of trees before we reach the point that we need to plant forests where none have been before. And some ecosystems definitely could be improved by planting forests. They can halt desertification, for example.