I know right! And before that I used Delphi from which the vast majority of the language patterns evolved! I still miss some of the wonderful power of Delphi, m

I know right! And before that I used Delphi from which the vast majority of the language patterns evolved! I still miss some of the wonderful power of Delphi, mainly that it was a decade or more ahead of it's time and had a community culture of quality well architected code with lots of free libraries! I remember using 'WebBroker' in Delphi 5 and running it on Apache on Windows for a startup back in the day, it really was the best web framework I've ever used and I've used literally a dozen.