6 ms·

Right majority or left majority the senate always seems to do nothing but work against the people.

by ed25519FUUU 5y ago

krainboltgreene 5y ago
We've never had a left majority in either part of congress.
- jamie_ca 5y ago
  Depends on your definition of left I guess? Dems held a majority in both houses + presidency 2009-11, and also 1993-95, and 1979-81...
  - hedora 5y ago
    Yeah, but because of obscure technicalities around the filibuster, the Dems need 60 votes to pass their agenda, but the Republicans pass theirs with 50.
    - tialaramex 5y ago
      The filibuster is just a rule that the Senate made for itself. If you have 50 Senate votes to actually get stuff done you can get it done by changing that rule. What the Democrats had was 50 votes to wring their hands and say it's impossible. Maybe they have 48 votes to get it done, maybe fewer. But they don't have 50 votes to actually get it done, so it doesn't get done. It suits several Democrats (famously two, but the real number is likely more) in the senate to say they can't do anything, but that isn't the case, it's a lie. You've probably told lies just like it. Oh, I can't come to the your party, so sorry, we have to er, see my wife's parents yeah. You don't want to go to their party, but you say you can't even though it isn't true.
  - krainboltgreene 5y ago
    Almost no definition of "the left" includes all America Democrat party members, much less a majority of them.
- FPGAhacker 5y ago
  https://history.house.gov/Institution/Presidents-Coinciding/Party-Government/ https://history.house.gov/Institution/Presidents-Coinciding/... “Since 1857, the government has been unified 47 times, 22 under Democratic control and 25 under Republican control” Not entertaining arguments about so and so party isn’t of this or that wing.
  - krainboltgreene 5y ago
    Haha okay well I guess if you're just going to ignore facts and substitute it with your own, have at it. But either way, they didn't say "Democrat" they said "left".
    - FPGAhacker 5y ago

Right majority or left majority the senate always seems to do nothing but work against the people.

krainboltgreene 5y ago

We've never had a left majority in either part of congress.

jamie_ca 5y ago
Depends on your definition of left I guess? Dems held a majority in both houses + presidency 2009-11, and also 1993-95, and 1979-81...
- hedora 5y ago
  Yeah, but because of obscure technicalities around the filibuster, the Dems need 60 votes to pass their agenda, but the Republicans pass theirs with 50.
  - tialaramex 5y ago
    The filibuster is just a rule that the Senate made for itself. If you have 50 Senate votes to actually get stuff done you can get it done by changing that rule. What the Democrats had was 50 votes to wring their hands and say it's impossible. Maybe they have 48 votes to get it done, maybe fewer. But they don't have 50 votes to actually get it done, so it doesn't get done. It suits several Democrats (famously two, but the real number is likely more) in the senate to say they can't do anything, but that isn't the case, it's a lie. You've probably told lies just like it. Oh, I can't come to the your party, so sorry, we have to er, see my wife's parents yeah. You don't want to go to their party, but you say you can't even though it isn't true.
- krainboltgreene 5y ago
  Almost no definition of "the left" includes all America Democrat party members, much less a majority of them.
FPGAhacker 5y ago
https://history.house.gov/Institution/Presidents-Coinciding/Party-Government/ https://history.house.gov/Institution/Presidents-Coinciding/... “Since 1857, the government has been unified 47 times, 22 under Democratic control and 25 under Republican control” Not entertaining arguments about so and so party isn’t of this or that wing.
- krainboltgreene 5y ago
  Haha okay well I guess if you're just going to ignore facts and substitute it with your own, have at it. But either way, they didn't say "Democrat" they said "left".
  - FPGAhacker 5y ago