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>spinning this to claim that the Labor party are friendly to China. Sorry but this is ridiculous. The Labor party are openly friendly with China, this isn't s

• stubish 5y ago
  Updated to China. Obviously ABC needs more funding to afford better sources: https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-02-11/china-accused-attempt-bankroll-labor-candidates-federal-election/100822512 https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-02-11/china-accused-attempt...
• nhinck 5y ago
  > main left-wing news site Which news site are you referring to?
• AussieWog93 5y ago
  >this article from the main left-wing news site in Australia Honestly, I read the ABC all the time and the editorial position is very clearly anti-CCP. Stan Grant in particular is one of the most ardent and consistent critics of Xi Jinping, posting articles about their military expansion and increasing concentration of power even when nothing in particular has happened that week to prompt it. Stating that one particular party, or any reputable media organisation (ABC and The Guardian are two I read) supports the CCP or apologises for them is ridiculous.
  • mrjangles 5y ago
    Ok maybe I was being overly hyperbolic before, but the facts here are clear: The CCP used people in Australia to get close to, and pay off, politicians who they thought would be inclined to favor their cause. Every single one of them belonged to the Labor party. I don't think anyone can call this spin, and I don't think any honest person would doubt that the media would be going absolutely bananas right now if all these people were Liberal party. Hell, they even tried to smear a Liberal party politician as a Chinese spy simply because she was a member of an overseas student club, that is how low they would sink. As for Stan Grant, he has been approached multiple times by both the National party and Liberal party to run for parliament with them. He was then put into the ABC by Ida Buttrose after she came to the ABC with express goal of evening out the extreme left wing bias at the ABC. His purpose at being at the ABC is literally to give a different perspective to their usual stuff. As for the ABC and Guardian, they are constantly pushing their audience to believe that democracy is deeply flawed. They are also constantly talking about what an amazing economic system China has and that their model is the way of the future. The only reason they are anti CCP in particular is because the entire word-wide left turned anti-China back in January 2019 overnight.
    • AussieWog93 5y ago
      > Every single one of them belonged to the Labor party. Except for Gladys Liu. :P I will concede the point generally here, though - Labor's far left faction (and left-wingers in general) do have a weirdly distorted view of China and are more susceptible to Chinese influence and propaganda, and the whole Sam Dastyari incident doesn't help. Again, though, I don't think that means the party as a whole is corrupt to the core. Labor supported pretty much all of the anti-CCP legislation that has gone through in the last few years, including AUKUS, and I can't see that radically changing any time soon. >As for Stan Grant I didn't know all that about him. Interesting. I just saw his aboriginal activism work and assumed he was left-leaning. Thinking about it for one second, I'm not surprised to find out that he simply cares about his community and wants to see them succeed. >As for the ABC and Guardian, they are constantly pushing their audience to believe that democracy is deeply flawed. I read both publications regularly, and don't get that idea. They report that democracy is under attack, yes, but they're not cheering for its destruction. The Guardian tends to lead somewhat anti-capitalist (hilarious considering how middle-class their average reader is, literally sucking at the teat of the system), but again they're not proposing China's even-more-unequal system any more than the rest of the world does (which, as you noted, basically stopped happening once they fucked with Hong Kong).