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IIRC, some far-left African American groups were working with the KKK to promote the "Back to Africa" movement through the civil rights era. I forget if it was

IIRC, some far-left African American groups were working with the KKK to promote the "Back to Africa" movement through the civil rights era. I forget if it was the Black Panthers or Black Hebrew Israelites / Black Zionists or something along those lines... but there's a significant amount of uncomfortable overlap there. ------- There's also the famous pact between Hitler (far right Fascism) and Stalin (far left Communism). Some people like to say that the left-right spectrum is a horseshoe. The far-left and the far-right start to get similar ideas and the "spectrum" bends back around like a horseshoe, meeting back in the middle. In many ways, its the moderates who disagree on the most number of subjects. And while the language of the extremists (either left or right) are different, the extremists are more alike than their philosophies seem to indicate.

scotuswroteus 5y ago
irthomasthomas 5y ago
Yes, the differences between fascism and communism are mostly ideological and academic. To the people living under them it's the same experience. Sacrificing oneself for the good of the nation/party/body. People make the mistake of thinking capitalism is incompatible with communism, but that is false. Marx wrote a lot about the role of technology in wealth creation. He thought that it would be technology that would bring abundance and set man free, and the best technologists where the free-market-capitalists. Marx also said something along the lines that capitalism, unchecked, was bound to become centralised and monopolised, creating the necessary conditions for the revolutionary transfer to totalitarian dictatorship of the proletariat.
nailer 5y ago
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ashwagary 5y ago
>There's also the famous pact between Hitler There's also the famous pact between Hitler and the Bush family.
dragonwriter 5y ago
> There's also the famous pact between Hitler (far right Fascism) and Stalin (far left Communism). Lots of people recognize that depsite using “Socialist” in their name and coopting some socialist rhetoric, the Nazis were far right, like the Italian Fascists. Fewer (but not no) people who aren't non-Leninist Marxists and/or Libertarian Socialists/Anarchists recognize the same thing about Leninism and it's vanguardist descendants (Stalinism, Maoism, etc.), but it's equally true of them.

scotuswroteus 5y ago

irthomasthomas 5y ago

Yes, the differences between fascism and communism are mostly ideological and academic. To the people living under them it's the same experience. Sacrificing oneself for the good of the nation/party/body. People make the mistake of thinking capitalism is incompatible with communism, but that is false. Marx wrote a lot about the role of technology in wealth creation. He thought that it would be technology that would bring abundance and set man free, and the best technologists where the free-market-capitalists. Marx also said something along the lines that capitalism, unchecked, was bound to become centralised and monopolised, creating the necessary conditions for the revolutionary transfer to totalitarian dictatorship of the proletariat.

nailer 5y ago

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ashwagary 5y ago

>There's also the famous pact between Hitler There's also the famous pact between Hitler and the Bush family.

dragonwriter 5y ago

> There's also the famous pact between Hitler (far right Fascism) and Stalin (far left Communism). Lots of people recognize that depsite using “Socialist” in their name and coopting some socialist rhetoric, the Nazis were far right, like the Italian Fascists. Fewer (but not no) people who aren't non-Leninist Marxists and/or Libertarian Socialists/Anarchists recognize the same thing about Leninism and it's vanguardist descendants (Stalinism, Maoism, etc.), but it's equally true of them.