Yes, we all know this, but boy crying wolf doesn't mean the wolf will never come. I say disregard what Elon says and look for yourself. Unlike every other AV pl

Yes, we all know this, but boy crying wolf doesn't mean the wolf will never come. I say disregard what Elon says and look for yourself. Unlike every other AV player, they're doing this in public and broad daylight (literally), so you don't have to take his word for anything. I think his statement in Dec is way more specific than in the past though, since he's mentioning the trend-line of disengagements over time, which is data they have internally that is difficult to gather from Youtube videos. Whether that trend will hold, or if it's even measuring the right thing is left to be seen, but it's a very different claim this time than previous years. That said, again, I wish people would stop using his claims from years past as some kind of evidence that they will never make it work. What kind of logic is that? > So I should make up my mind about what the person I asked thinks about something instead of simply asking them? It's technology, you can make up your own mind about it, independent of what you think of Musk. If this is how you reason about the world, it's a very shallow way. "I think Apple will fail because Steve Jobs is an asshole that stole money from Wozniak", "Windows will fail because Bill Gates is a bully blah blah".