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So if I dont know the long-term effect of COVID and I dont know the long-term effect of the vaccine the logical thing is to intentionally get the vaccine and de

• ceejayoz 5y ago
  > So if I dont know the long-term effect of COVID and I dont know the long-term effect of the vaccine the logical thing is to intentionally get the vaccine and deal with whatever may be the long-term effects later? Yes, considering the vaccine's mechanism - causing your body to produce a SARS-CoV-2 viral protein that an active infection would also cause you to produce. Worrying about the vaccine while getting infected with SARS-CoV-2 is like worrying about getting wet in a swimming pool; you're already wet. > Since it is perfectly reasonable to assume that one can avoid getting COVID for a long time long enough to make a decision on actual numbers later on. I do not think that's perfectly reasonable to assume in the days of Omicron.
  • noxer 5y ago
    >...is like worrying about getting wet in a swimming pool; you're already wet. No, that exactly not what it is. I never had COVID so I was never in that swimming pool in the first place. My personal situation allowed me to stay far away form any swimming pools so the risk of falling in one was very small. Intentionally getting the vaccine gives me 100% of the unknown risk associated with it while not getting the vaccine gives me a unknown but lower than 100% risk of getting COVID and then once I have it 100% of the unknown risk associated with COVID but that happens ONLY when I get it. This kind of risk assessment is done for every medical procedure. Lets just make a though experiment and assume the risk of COVID and the vaccine would be exactly the same. Now its obvious that taking the vaccine is more risk than trying to avoid getting COVID instead. Of course the risk is not the same but back in the days we did not know the risk of either so it was perfectly reasonable to try to avoid COVID for as long as possible until the actual risk for both is better known. >I do not think that's perfectly reasonable to assume in the days of Omicron. Pretty much everyone already did try to avoid getting COVID for over a year when the vaccines came out. Most of us succeed and did not get COVID in that time but somehow it should not be reasonable to think one can do it longer? Omicronw wasn't a thing then, its irrelevant, no one could include it in their personal risk assessment back then. No one knew that Omicron would come and between the vaccine roll out and the first Omicron case many month passed. Sure, things have changed now, Omicron seems to be way harder to avoid but on the other hand the risk is also way lower so the risk assessment is completely different now. Funny enough many people regret getting pushed to take the vaccine and would not do it again and even reject the booster(s). Also the risk assessment for kids always suggested that vaccines are not needed for them and now with Omicorn less then ever. But the same people who declared everyone stupid/selfish or whatever who didn't take the vaccine, are the people who now push and promote that kids also get vaccinated and parent who dont want that are declared monsters. In other words thous people never cared about risk assessment and logical decision anyway they just want everyone to do what they want. Everyone else is declared an anti-vaxxer and a horrible human for no reason. Risk assessment for medical stuff is a personal decision. And People will decide differently which is perfectly fine. Not acceptable is to not respect it and treat people differently based on their decision.