You gonna have to be a bit more specific than that. When I think "Swiss", "Germany" and "government intelligence agencies" then the things that come to my mind

You gonna have to be a bit more specific than that. When I think "Swiss", "Germany" and "government intelligence agencies" then the things that come to my mind are Crypto AG [0], how the BND started out as a CIA OP [1] and how the very same BND seems to be more interested in pleasing American interests than protecting Germans [2]. Which is btw the same BND who cooperates with the NSA [3] to help them tap directly into one of the world's largest IXP De-CIX, completely legal in Germany [4]. The US made sure of that by pressuring the West German government into watering down the G-10 law [5] during the cold war. So whatever "delusions" you are referring there to, you have to be a bit more concrete about them. [0] https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/feb/11/crypto-ag-cia-bnd-germany-intelligence-report https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/feb/11/crypto-ag-ci... [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gehlen_Organization https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gehlen_Organization [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ECHELON#Examples_of_industrial_espionage https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ECHELON#Examples_of_industrial... [3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Eikonal https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Eikonal [4] https://www.spiegel.de/netzwelt/netzpolitik/de-cix-betreiber-von-internet-knoten-verliert-klage-gegen-bnd-a-1210243.html https://www.spiegel.de/netzwelt/netzpolitik/de-cix-betreiber... [5] https://www.europarl.europa.eu/document/activities/cont/201403/20140307ATT80674/20140307ATT80674EN.pdf https://www.europarl.europa.eu/document/activities/cont/2014...