> JavaScript itself is very powerful in its own domain(the DOM interactions in the browser) Imo, most of this benefit comes from being effectively the only way

> JavaScript itself is very powerful in its own domain(the DOM interactions in the browser) Imo, most of this benefit comes from being effectively the only way to interact with the DOM up until WASM (and I think I read that WASM still calls out to JS for DOM manipulation). If Python had a way to manipulate the DOM via shared libraries or something, I'd wager there would be equally powerful Python libraries (ignoring security concerns). Or phrased differently, I don't think anything about the design of Javascript is uniquely well suited to manipulating DOMs, it just has a monopoly on manipulating the DOM. > most of the bloat comes from developers wanting to write JS in different way than originally designed I think a big part of this is that Javascript has become a much more integral part of websites than it was originally intended to be. My impression is that it was designed to add a little bit of interactivity, not for people to ship a nearly blank HTML file and then fill in the entire page using Javascript. That's not to say it's a bad idea, I just don't think it was designed for that and we have some warts and a lot of changes to allow us to implement that modern paradigm. I strongly suspect some form of parallelism would have been included if we had known what modern frameworks would look like.