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From a real value standpoint the cars have to be depreciating. You’re presumably putting miles and real wear and tear on the vehicle. There’s a perfect trifecta

From a real value standpoint the cars have to be depreciating. You’re presumably putting miles and real wear and tear on the vehicle. There’s a perfect trifecta of reduced supply, increased demand, and inflation. I’m not sure it’s worth it to upgrade in all cases; the corners cut on the newer vehicles might mean that the newer vehicle is of a poorer build quality than your existing one.

empthought 5y ago
> real value standpoint What does this even mean, if you ignore low supply and high demand?
- matheweis 5y ago
  In the long run wear and tear on the vehicle will eventually render it unusable. Unless you’re parking it in a climate controlled garage you’re contributing towards that wear and tear, using up a fraction of it’s lifetime utility, and thus reducing it’s real value.
wil421 5y ago
What corners are they cutting? I’ve been looking at new cars and they have reduced options. In some case they even give money off the price since the features are lacking.
- matheweis 5y ago
  Reduced features, cheaper components, etc. GM trucks are leaving out fuel management modules (reduced gas mileage): https://www.theverge.com/2021/3/15/22331766/gm-pickups-semiconductor-shortage-fuel-economy-emissions https://www.theverge.com/2021/3/15/22331766/gm-pickups-semic... Tesla removed a backup steering motor: https://www.cnbc.com/2022/02/07/tesla-cut-a-steering-component-to-deal-with-chip-shortage.html https://www.cnbc.com/2022/02/07/tesla-cut-a-steering-compone... BMW pulled touch screens from their cars: https://www.theverge.com/2021/11/5/22765709/bmw-chip-shortage-touchscreen-car-suv-manufacturing https://www.theverge.com/2021/11/5/22765709/bmw-chip-shortag... GM leaving out wireless charging: https://www.theverge.com/2021/7/13/22575836/gm-wireless-charging-cadillac-chevy-tahoe-chip-shortage https://www.theverge.com/2021/7/13/22575836/gm-wireless-char... I’m sure there are more and these are just the ones making the news. All things being equal I wouldn’t expect a 2022 car to be as good as a 2020 car.

empthought 5y ago

> real value standpoint What does this even mean, if you ignore low supply and high demand?

matheweis 5y ago
In the long run wear and tear on the vehicle will eventually render it unusable. Unless you’re parking it in a climate controlled garage you’re contributing towards that wear and tear, using up a fraction of it’s lifetime utility, and thus reducing it’s real value.

wil421 5y ago

What corners are they cutting? I’ve been looking at new cars and they have reduced options. In some case they even give money off the price since the features are lacking.

matheweis 5y ago
Reduced features, cheaper components, etc. GM trucks are leaving out fuel management modules (reduced gas mileage): https://www.theverge.com/2021/3/15/22331766/gm-pickups-semiconductor-shortage-fuel-economy-emissions https://www.theverge.com/2021/3/15/22331766/gm-pickups-semic... Tesla removed a backup steering motor: https://www.cnbc.com/2022/02/07/tesla-cut-a-steering-component-to-deal-with-chip-shortage.html https://www.cnbc.com/2022/02/07/tesla-cut-a-steering-compone... BMW pulled touch screens from their cars: https://www.theverge.com/2021/11/5/22765709/bmw-chip-shortage-touchscreen-car-suv-manufacturing https://www.theverge.com/2021/11/5/22765709/bmw-chip-shortag... GM leaving out wireless charging: https://www.theverge.com/2021/7/13/22575836/gm-wireless-charging-cadillac-chevy-tahoe-chip-shortage https://www.theverge.com/2021/7/13/22575836/gm-wireless-char... I’m sure there are more and these are just the ones making the news. All things being equal I wouldn’t expect a 2022 car to be as good as a 2020 car.