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That sure sounds like Republican propaganda, probably in response to a recent Democratic ad. No mention of it on his wikipedia page (it says "His injuries left

by ojbyrne 18y ago

That sure sounds like Republican propaganda, probably in response to a recent Democratic ad. No mention of it on his wikipedia page (it says "His injuries left him permanently incapable of raising his arms above his head"), and I had no problem finding pictures of him pointing with an extended index finger: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/4d/McCain2008MemorialDay.jpg/180px-McCain2008MemorialDay.jpg http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/4d/McC... thumbs up: http://randt.files.wordpress.com/2008/06/john_mccain_narrowweb__300x3730.jpg http://randt.files.wordpress.com/2008/06/john_mccain_narroww... holding a microphone and thumbs up: http://www.goodtimeoldies.com/Files/john.mccain.jpg http://www.goodtimeoldies.com/Files/john.mccain.jpg And I used google to find this out.

anamax 18y ago
He hasn't made a big deal of it. That's somewhat understandable - if he can't work a keyboard, there are some other things that he probably can't work and some of them are somewhat embarrassing. Or, he's lying. Or, he's been waiting to spring this, the crafty, scheming old bastard. What do you think that you can accomplish by arguing this point? BTW - "can't type" is a Dem talking point, propaganda if you will. Feel free to explain why "it's Repub propaganda" is relevant and "it's Dem propaganda" isn't.
- ojbyrne 18y ago
  In general, I'm sometimes sympathetic to the right wing point of view - less government is a good idea. But I generally see the Republican party as willing to sacrifice honesty at almost every opportunity, and it offends me. And I very much doubt that when the Democratic party decided to run an ad questioning John McCain's lack of computer literacy, that they didn't research the possibility of him being physically handicapped. So my natural impulse is to believe that it's more of the same, morally equivalent to WMDs in Iraq.
  - anamax 18y ago
    So, you're going with "he's lying". Let's demand a medical report to seal the deal. FWIW, the "they're too smart" argument tells us that Hans Reiser is innocent. BTW - Feel free to cite a prominent Dem who believed that there weren't WMDs. Yes, during the Clinton administration counts. (Unless you want to argue that stupid Bush was distorting intelligence reports from Texas.) Also, what counts as WMDs? If I have everything ready to go.... (And, Iraq did have yellow cake - the sale and shipment was in the news earlier this summer.)
    - ojbyrne 18y ago
      I think the link above (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/09/12/yes-mccain-can-use-electr_n_126130.html http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/09/12/yes-mccain-can-use-...) has made you look kind of dumb. And just to counter your obvious response I never said he was lying. I said "republicans" were lying. Cheers.
      - anamax 18y ago
        That link shows McCain using e-mail and quotes him saying "I read e-mails all the time", which is what the Obama advert said that he couldn't or didn't do. I don't know that I'd call thumbing a blackberry as "typing", but if that makes you happy.... Let's rewind to 2000. According to http://www.forbes.com/asap/2000/0529/053_print.html http://www.forbes.com/asap/2000/0529/053_print.html , "McCain is an inveterate devotee of email. His nightly ritual is to read his email together with his wife, Cindy. The injuries he incurred as a Vietnam POW make it painful for McCain to type. Instead, he dictates responses that his wife types on a laptop. "She's a whiz on the keyboard, and I'm so laborious," McCain admits."
- ojbyrne 18y ago
  I just watched the commercial, and they don't actually say anything resembling "can't type." They say he "can't send an email." But letting politics intrude here is probably bad, especially when I don't actually live in the US anymore. We have our own neo-con party to deal with up here in Canada.
  - anamax 18y ago
    Do you really want to go with "he can't type, but he can send an e-mail"? Or, are you going to argue that he can type?
anamax 18y ago
The "can't type but does use e-mail" stuff is at least as old as McCain's 2000 campaign. I've posted a 2000 link to the "uses e-mail" below. Here's a 2000 source for "McCain's severe war injuries prevent him from combing his hair, typing on a keyboard, or tying his shoes." http://graphics.boston.com/news/politics/campaign2000/news/McCain_character_loyal_to_a_fault+.shtml http://graphics.boston.com/news/politics/campaign2000/news/M...

by ojbyrne 18y ago

anamax 18y ago

He hasn't made a big deal of it. That's somewhat understandable - if he can't work a keyboard, there are some other things that he probably can't work and some of them are somewhat embarrassing. Or, he's lying. Or, he's been waiting to spring this, the crafty, scheming old bastard. What do you think that you can accomplish by arguing this point? BTW - "can't type" is a Dem talking point, propaganda if you will. Feel free to explain why "it's Repub propaganda" is relevant and "it's Dem propaganda" isn't.

ojbyrne 18y ago
In general, I'm sometimes sympathetic to the right wing point of view - less government is a good idea. But I generally see the Republican party as willing to sacrifice honesty at almost every opportunity, and it offends me. And I very much doubt that when the Democratic party decided to run an ad questioning John McCain's lack of computer literacy, that they didn't research the possibility of him being physically handicapped. So my natural impulse is to believe that it's more of the same, morally equivalent to WMDs in Iraq.
- anamax 18y ago
  So, you're going with "he's lying". Let's demand a medical report to seal the deal. FWIW, the "they're too smart" argument tells us that Hans Reiser is innocent. BTW - Feel free to cite a prominent Dem who believed that there weren't WMDs. Yes, during the Clinton administration counts. (Unless you want to argue that stupid Bush was distorting intelligence reports from Texas.) Also, what counts as WMDs? If I have everything ready to go.... (And, Iraq did have yellow cake - the sale and shipment was in the news earlier this summer.)
  - ojbyrne 18y ago
    I think the link above (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/09/12/yes-mccain-can-use-electr_n_126130.html http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/09/12/yes-mccain-can-use-...) has made you look kind of dumb. And just to counter your obvious response I never said he was lying. I said "republicans" were lying. Cheers.
    - anamax 18y ago
      That link shows McCain using e-mail and quotes him saying "I read e-mails all the time", which is what the Obama advert said that he couldn't or didn't do. I don't know that I'd call thumbing a blackberry as "typing", but if that makes you happy.... Let's rewind to 2000. According to http://www.forbes.com/asap/2000/0529/053_print.html http://www.forbes.com/asap/2000/0529/053_print.html , "McCain is an inveterate devotee of email. His nightly ritual is to read his email together with his wife, Cindy. The injuries he incurred as a Vietnam POW make it painful for McCain to type. Instead, he dictates responses that his wife types on a laptop. "She's a whiz on the keyboard, and I'm so laborious," McCain admits."
ojbyrne 18y ago
I just watched the commercial, and they don't actually say anything resembling "can't type." They say he "can't send an email." But letting politics intrude here is probably bad, especially when I don't actually live in the US anymore. We have our own neo-con party to deal with up here in Canada.
- anamax 18y ago
  Do you really want to go with "he can't type, but he can send an e-mail"? Or, are you going to argue that he can type?

anamax 18y ago

The "can't type but does use e-mail" stuff is at least as old as McCain's 2000 campaign. I've posted a 2000 link to the "uses e-mail" below. Here's a 2000 source for "McCain's severe war injuries prevent him from combing his hair, typing on a keyboard, or tying his shoes." http://graphics.boston.com/news/politics/campaign2000/news/McCain_character_loyal_to_a_fault+.shtml http://graphics.boston.com/news/politics/campaign2000/news/M...