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If Google doesn't offer the ability then it is up to the customer to not use GA until Google complies. I hate this ruling, but implying it's just Google's job t

If Google doesn't offer the ability then it is up to the customer to not use GA until Google complies. I hate this ruling, but implying it's just Google's job to do this and everyone else should just do nothing is crazy.

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rightbyte 5y ago
Surely Google has presense in France? Why not go after Google directly. It is way easier than processing 1000s of siteowners. Google are the ones spying. The aggregate put on GA dashboard are a minute of the personal info they collect.
- arlcode 5y ago
  Reasons: 1. Legal: It's the site owners integrating GA and therefore taking on the liabilities just like they do with every other supplier. When a part in your car fails immediately after you bought it, it's the manufacturers job to fix it even if they acquired the parts from a third party (e.g. Bosch). 2. Practical: A website 100% located in France and catering to 100% french customers is much more likely to fix the problem than the international anonymous machine that is Google.
  - V__ 5y ago
    > When a part in your car fails immediately after you bought it, it's the manufacturers job to fix it even if they acquired the parts from a third party (e.g. Bosch). And the manufacturer can go after Bosch, who is responsible in the end. > than the international anonymous machine that is Google. Except the law applies to Europe as a whole, and it's really not that much to ask one of the biggest technology companies in the world to use European servers and anonymize European traffic by default. They just don't want to or don't care. Which both should be reason enough to stronger regulate them.
    - arlcode 5y ago
      Very true. I think we will see a two pronged approach to the Problem. On the EU level, the commission and the states will engage Google directly while on a national level individual companies will be "encouraged" to find alternatives.
      - V__ 5y ago
        Yeah, that would be my prediction as well.
  - rightbyte 5y ago
    > the international anonymous machine that is Google. Uber, Google etc really wants this to be true. However, it is trivial for a nation state to shut down Google's commercial interest in the country. Just have the police lock the door to their office and blacklist a bank account or two. If doing business with Google becomes illegal, they will lose almost all revenue except some indirect shell company ads. Seems way less work to make Google compliant than to figure out which sites in French are actually French jurisdiction.

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rightbyte 5y ago

Surely Google has presense in France? Why not go after Google directly. It is way easier than processing 1000s of siteowners. Google are the ones spying. The aggregate put on GA dashboard are a minute of the personal info they collect.

arlcode 5y ago
Reasons: 1. Legal: It's the site owners integrating GA and therefore taking on the liabilities just like they do with every other supplier. When a part in your car fails immediately after you bought it, it's the manufacturers job to fix it even if they acquired the parts from a third party (e.g. Bosch). 2. Practical: A website 100% located in France and catering to 100% french customers is much more likely to fix the problem than the international anonymous machine that is Google.
- V__ 5y ago
  > When a part in your car fails immediately after you bought it, it's the manufacturers job to fix it even if they acquired the parts from a third party (e.g. Bosch). And the manufacturer can go after Bosch, who is responsible in the end. > than the international anonymous machine that is Google. Except the law applies to Europe as a whole, and it's really not that much to ask one of the biggest technology companies in the world to use European servers and anonymize European traffic by default. They just don't want to or don't care. Which both should be reason enough to stronger regulate them.
  - arlcode 5y ago
    Very true. I think we will see a two pronged approach to the Problem. On the EU level, the commission and the states will engage Google directly while on a national level individual companies will be "encouraged" to find alternatives.
    - V__ 5y ago
      Yeah, that would be my prediction as well.
- rightbyte 5y ago
  > the international anonymous machine that is Google. Uber, Google etc really wants this to be true. However, it is trivial for a nation state to shut down Google's commercial interest in the country. Just have the police lock the door to their office and blacklist a bank account or two. If doing business with Google becomes illegal, they will lose almost all revenue except some indirect shell company ads. Seems way less work to make Google compliant than to figure out which sites in French are actually French jurisdiction.