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Same happens in Ukraine btw (citizens are sentenced for a T-shirt). Yet you even know nothing about this (nor do you really care), because Ukraine is "democracy

Same happens in Ukraine btw (citizens are sentenced for a T-shirt). Yet you even know nothing about this (nor do you really care), because Ukraine is "democracy". There's much more to tell here, but this is just a bare example.

sam_lowry_ 5y ago
Here is the link that reports about the smiley case from Belarus [1]. It is a reputable news source, run by former tut.by journalists. What is your reference? [1] https://news.zerkalo.io/life/8867.html https://news.zerkalo.io/life/8867.html
- sedan_baklazhan 5y ago
  You can start here. This is just a single case, one of many that are similar. https://lviv.tsn.ua/ru/sud-vynes-prigovor-22-letnemu-lvovyaninu-za-futbolku-s-simvolikoy-sssr-kak-nakazali-parnya-1752667.html https://lviv.tsn.ua/ru/sud-vynes-prigovor-22-letnemu-lvovyan... BTW, your link does NOT say anything about a sentence for a smiley. It says she did post a smiley, among other things. That's what is in your story.
  - sam_lowry_ 5y ago
    >does NOT say anything about a sentence for a smiley The sentence is "two years of forced labour without displacement", the article says it clearly. This is much harsher than the 1 year suspended sentence of the Ukrainian dude for wearing the CCCP T-shirt. Not that I support punishing people for wearing svastika or red star, but this is common in many European countries, Germany and Baltic states are the most known examples.
    - sedan_baklazhan 5y ago
      Your article does not say that she was sentenced specifically FOR the smiley (and not i.e. for something she wrote online). On another hand, you are saying that sentence for a T-shirt is "common" (in my understanding it means that Estonia is very far, probably much farther than Belarus, from being a democracy). I can also reply to that with examples of people sentenced for tweets in EU or USA. This is also "common". And this discussion is actually getting nowhere, just shows that we have different biases.

sam_lowry_ 5y ago

Here is the link that reports about the smiley case from Belarus [1]. It is a reputable news source, run by former tut.by journalists. What is your reference? [1] https://news.zerkalo.io/life/8867.html https://news.zerkalo.io/life/8867.html

sedan_baklazhan 5y ago
You can start here. This is just a single case, one of many that are similar. https://lviv.tsn.ua/ru/sud-vynes-prigovor-22-letnemu-lvovyaninu-za-futbolku-s-simvolikoy-sssr-kak-nakazali-parnya-1752667.html https://lviv.tsn.ua/ru/sud-vynes-prigovor-22-letnemu-lvovyan... BTW, your link does NOT say anything about a sentence for a smiley. It says she did post a smiley, among other things. That's what is in your story.
- sam_lowry_ 5y ago
  >does NOT say anything about a sentence for a smiley The sentence is "two years of forced labour without displacement", the article says it clearly. This is much harsher than the 1 year suspended sentence of the Ukrainian dude for wearing the CCCP T-shirt. Not that I support punishing people for wearing svastika or red star, but this is common in many European countries, Germany and Baltic states are the most known examples.
  - sedan_baklazhan 5y ago
    Your article does not say that she was sentenced specifically FOR the smiley (and not i.e. for something she wrote online). On another hand, you are saying that sentence for a T-shirt is "common" (in my understanding it means that Estonia is very far, probably much farther than Belarus, from being a democracy). I can also reply to that with examples of people sentenced for tweets in EU or USA. This is also "common". And this discussion is actually getting nowhere, just shows that we have different biases.