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Go Truck Yourself

9 points by stanislavb 5y ago

PaulDavisThe1st 5y ago
Author cites a Danish medical professional: > I do not believe in imposed vaccine mandates. It’s a pharmaceutical intervention with possible side effects. I think if you push too much, you will have a reaction. Action generates reaction, especially with vaccines. Yep, that's definitely how we handled smallpox, polio, mumps, measles and more, diseases that use to kill or cripple huge numbers of people, and whose general eradication has come at little to no cost in terms of life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. If you want to discuss the appropriateness of COVID19 vaccine mandates, it might help your case not to try to broaden your point to all vaccines everywhere.
- aakresearch 5y ago
  > Yep, that's definitely how we handled smallpox, polio, mumps, measles and more, diseases that use to kill or cripple huge numbers of people, and whose general eradication has come at little to no cost in terms of life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. Yet the exceptions to the above (non)-"mandates" were and are pretty generous. Even in the dark empire of ex-USSR, if someone didn't very clearly fit into a "safe" statistical bucket due to some sickness, or other conditions - they were put on a reduced vax protocol, or spared injections completely. How do I know this - first-hand experience by me and my family. And nobody ever was threatened to lose their job or right to enter a grocery store, or refused to be seen by doctor due to missing inoculation. Granted, some occupations - meat industry, for example - did require "sanitary passport", but it was an utter lunacy to demand such from teachers, or truckers, or software developers.
  - PaulDavisThe1st 5y ago
    Most the diseases we have eradicated with vaccines were already not in a position to cause pandemics. We also vaccinated against them mostly in childhood, which 20 years later gave us (the beginning of) an adult population that didn't need to be cajoled into doing the right thing. By contrast, COVID19 is in almost every sense a brand new disease to which very few humans anywhere on the planet had any natural immunity, and is contagious enough (even in the less-highly contagious variant cases) to cause pandemics that are public (not personal) health emergencies. It's hardly surprising that the approaches would differ somewhat.

9 points by stanislavb 5y ago

Author cites a Danish medical professional: > I do not believe in imposed vaccine mandates. It’s a pharmaceutical intervention with possible side effects. I think if you push too much, you will have a reaction. Action generates reaction, especially with vaccines. Yep, that's definitely how we handled smallpox, polio, mumps, measles and more, diseases that use to kill or cripple huge numbers of people, and whose general eradication has come at little to no cost in terms of life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. If you want to discuss the appropriateness of COVID19 vaccine mandates, it might help your case not to try to broaden your point to all vaccines everywhere.

aakresearch 5y ago
> Yep, that's definitely how we handled smallpox, polio, mumps, measles and more, diseases that use to kill or cripple huge numbers of people, and whose general eradication has come at little to no cost in terms of life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. Yet the exceptions to the above (non)-"mandates" were and are pretty generous. Even in the dark empire of ex-USSR, if someone didn't very clearly fit into a "safe" statistical bucket due to some sickness, or other conditions - they were put on a reduced vax protocol, or spared injections completely. How do I know this - first-hand experience by me and my family. And nobody ever was threatened to lose their job or right to enter a grocery store, or refused to be seen by doctor due to missing inoculation. Granted, some occupations - meat industry, for example - did require "sanitary passport", but it was an utter lunacy to demand such from teachers, or truckers, or software developers.
- PaulDavisThe1st 5y ago
  Most the diseases we have eradicated with vaccines were already not in a position to cause pandemics. We also vaccinated against them mostly in childhood, which 20 years later gave us (the beginning of) an adult population that didn't need to be cajoled into doing the right thing. By contrast, COVID19 is in almost every sense a brand new disease to which very few humans anywhere on the planet had any natural immunity, and is contagious enough (even in the less-highly contagious variant cases) to cause pandemics that are public (not personal) health emergencies. It's hardly surprising that the approaches would differ somewhat.