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“ Not just coincidentally, “deaths of despair” — those caused by suicide, overdose and alcoholism — have surged to unprecedented levels among middle-aged men ov

“ Not just coincidentally, “deaths of despair” — those caused by suicide, overdose and alcoholism — have surged to unprecedented levels among middle-aged men over the past 20 years.” The vast majority of those suicides are coming from a specific “ethnic category”. But if you say which one, it makes you a domestic terrorist. What is the motivation to live in a world where you’re not even allowed to talk about what’s happening to you? We are living in idiocracy. Up is down, the only morally righteous thing to do is to cheer on censorship and beg for Patriot Act 2.0, 3.0 etc to be passed. Agreeability wrt the decrees of big brother is the only virtue. If you don’t have kids you are going to die by getting abused by minimum wage nursing home employees who quite possibly have been brainwashed their entire lives by every large media company to believe that you are racist and evil because of your “ethnic category”. But if you get married, your wife can take everything from you, and big brother will lock you in a cage if you don't want to pay your ex wife to fuck some other guy in the house you bought that she now lives in. So why would an intelligent person get married? And yet what is the national conversation about? It’s only about how all straight men of a particular “ethnic category” are racist and evil and they all need to focus on giving more to people in other “ethnic categories”. It’s a complete nightmare to anyone with a brain. It has nothing to do with anything that is going to lead to a better future. Race-based ideologies are a dead end. And nothing ever gets better. Epstein gets arrested, assassinated, and you have to listen to talking heads on news say he committed suicide year after year even though everybody knows its not true.

selfportrait 5y ago
This comment really takes you on a roller coaster. To mirror the title here, this comment is clear: this boy is not all right. Domestic terrorists? Social justice warrior nursing home staff? Patriot Act? Incel-oriented divorce court angst? Epstein? > And yet what is the national conversation about? It’s only about how all straight men of a particular “ethnic category” are racist and evil and they all need to focus on giving more to people in other “ethnic categories”. I just am never convinced by this reactionary argument when I hear it. The internet skews people’s perceptions of the world, and this comment is exemplary of it. These Twitter-fueled “culture war” distortions have not done us any favors. In the most polite way possible, I recommend you go outside once in a while.
- hackerfromthefu 5y ago
  There's clearly hyperbole in the gp post, but there's also truth. Per HN guidelines try to take his post in good faith instead of writing him off. Be part of the solution not the problem.
  - selfportrait 5y ago
    To be fair there’s some truth in even the most outlandish conspiracies. That poster is undeniably an incel with distorted views on women and social justice causes. I think it would serve the boy well if you could pitch in and save him from the conservative propaganda he’s been fed, not to mention his views on women and that common whining that echoes in the halls of the Joe Rogan sphere about divorce. Divorce court is a common trope amongst reactionaries. He has clearly never talked to a woman let alone heard of the concept of a prenup? Should we get the ball rolling on the wildly delusional nurses comment or the random Patriot Act comment or oddly enough the Epstein comment that he stitched in there for good measure? I’m sure they would make for good discussion, just not in the rambling context. I think I did decently on the front of taking his post in good faith, that’s why I didn’t ask him if he listens to Jordan Peterson (hint: he probably does). The guy is in pain, that much is clear.
lemmsjid 5y ago
It isn't domestic terrorism to discuss suicide rates by gender, age, sexuality, etc. Here's a breakdown from the CDC: https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/hestat/suicide/rates_1999_2017.htm#Table https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/hestat/suicide/rates_1999_2017... The categories with the highest suicide rates are "Non-Hispanic American Indian or Alaska Native" followed by "Non Hispanic White". The highest rate of increase is in that first category. If this elder abuse at the hand of brainwashed nursing home workers is so certain, then where is the correlating data? Here's a study that attempted to find racial disparities in elder abuse and found little disparity https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3694735/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3694735/. It cites several previous studies. The national conversation about race can indeed be very frustrating to encounter, but you're taking an incredibly one sided and defeatist stance on the whole thing.
rpmisms 5y ago
If I had to hazard a guess, you feel downtrodden and targeted. Please hear me: I'm sorry. I've gotten my head out of politics lately, and it's seriously improved my mental health. Please cut your news media intake, it will help.

selfportrait 5y ago

This comment really takes you on a roller coaster. To mirror the title here, this comment is clear: this boy is not all right. Domestic terrorists? Social justice warrior nursing home staff? Patriot Act? Incel-oriented divorce court angst? Epstein? > And yet what is the national conversation about? It’s only about how all straight men of a particular “ethnic category” are racist and evil and they all need to focus on giving more to people in other “ethnic categories”. I just am never convinced by this reactionary argument when I hear it. The internet skews people’s perceptions of the world, and this comment is exemplary of it. These Twitter-fueled “culture war” distortions have not done us any favors. In the most polite way possible, I recommend you go outside once in a while.

hackerfromthefu 5y ago
There's clearly hyperbole in the gp post, but there's also truth. Per HN guidelines try to take his post in good faith instead of writing him off. Be part of the solution not the problem.
- selfportrait 5y ago
  To be fair there’s some truth in even the most outlandish conspiracies. That poster is undeniably an incel with distorted views on women and social justice causes. I think it would serve the boy well if you could pitch in and save him from the conservative propaganda he’s been fed, not to mention his views on women and that common whining that echoes in the halls of the Joe Rogan sphere about divorce. Divorce court is a common trope amongst reactionaries. He has clearly never talked to a woman let alone heard of the concept of a prenup? Should we get the ball rolling on the wildly delusional nurses comment or the random Patriot Act comment or oddly enough the Epstein comment that he stitched in there for good measure? I’m sure they would make for good discussion, just not in the rambling context. I think I did decently on the front of taking his post in good faith, that’s why I didn’t ask him if he listens to Jordan Peterson (hint: he probably does). The guy is in pain, that much is clear.

lemmsjid 5y ago

It isn't domestic terrorism to discuss suicide rates by gender, age, sexuality, etc. Here's a breakdown from the CDC: https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/hestat/suicide/rates_1999_2017.htm#Table https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/hestat/suicide/rates_1999_2017... The categories with the highest suicide rates are "Non-Hispanic American Indian or Alaska Native" followed by "Non Hispanic White". The highest rate of increase is in that first category. If this elder abuse at the hand of brainwashed nursing home workers is so certain, then where is the correlating data? Here's a study that attempted to find racial disparities in elder abuse and found little disparity https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3694735/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3694735/. It cites several previous studies. The national conversation about race can indeed be very frustrating to encounter, but you're taking an incredibly one sided and defeatist stance on the whole thing.

rpmisms 5y ago

If I had to hazard a guess, you feel downtrodden and targeted. Please hear me: I'm sorry. I've gotten my head out of politics lately, and it's seriously improved my mental health. Please cut your news media intake, it will help.