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SARS-CoV-1 leaked out of [edit](three separate labs (one in China, one in Singapore and one in Taiwan)) It is of course very misleading present to these "leaks

by vanusa 5y ago

SARS-CoV-1 leaked out of [edit](three separate labs (one in China, one in Singapore and one in Taiwan)) It is of course very misleading present to these "leaks" as evidence of "lab origin". Especially given that these were all incidents of, not surprisingly, lab workers contracting the virus after it had been brought into the lab for study, and fully a year after SARS-CoV-1 started infecting the public at large. The overwhelming consensus is that SARS-Cov-1 has zoonotic origin with a number of intermediary hosts suspected, including civets, bats and cats. This isn't some fringe crackpot theory Well... let's just leave the terms "fringe" and "crackpot" to the side for a minute. Being as we're both open-minded, curious individuals at all. The bigger point here the quality of one's reasoning -- and the argument you're presenting here -- "Lab workers infected by a virus 2 years after a public outbreak evidence lab origin" (my paraphrase) -- is patently specious. Such that I'm not sure you even believe what you're saying, actually. Not that I'm saying you're lying to us. But seriously -- did you stop to think at all basic chain of cause and effect here? Did you?

arcticbull 5y ago
> It is of course very misleading present to these "leaks" as evidence of "lab origin". To be clear I don't have any evidence of a lab leak origin [edit](for COVID-19), and did not claim to!
- vanusa 5y ago
  "It's completely precedented", you said, apparently in reference the lab-origin hypothesis.
  - arcticbull 5y ago
    Indeed, I was referring to the idea of viruses and bacteria escaping from research labs and then, occasionally, spreading within a community. I provided evidence of this claim. I wasn't saying that I believed that COVID-19 specifically escaped from a/the lab. I do not have evidence of that. Apologies if that was unclear. I was pushing back on the initial out-of-hand rejection of this idea.

by vanusa 5y ago

arcticbull 5y ago

> It is of course very misleading present to these "leaks" as evidence of "lab origin". To be clear I don't have any evidence of a lab leak origin [edit](for COVID-19), and did not claim to!

vanusa 5y ago
"It's completely precedented", you said, apparently in reference the lab-origin hypothesis.
- arcticbull 5y ago
  Indeed, I was referring to the idea of viruses and bacteria escaping from research labs and then, occasionally, spreading within a community. I provided evidence of this claim. I wasn't saying that I believed that COVID-19 specifically escaped from a/the lab. I do not have evidence of that. Apologies if that was unclear. I was pushing back on the initial out-of-hand rejection of this idea.