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I’m totally open to the idea that it was a lab leak of some sort. What I’m opposed to is certain political figures presenting that theory as fact, without evide

I’m totally open to the idea that it was a lab leak of some sort. What I’m opposed to is certain political figures presenting that theory as fact, without evidence, for political gain at the expense of an entire race of people.

innocentoldguy 5y ago
The CCP isn't a "race of people" any more than the federal government is. I could be wrong, but I don't remember a single accusation being leveled at Asians. I do recall a lot of accusations being leveled at the CCP and also the US federal government though.
- woodruffw 5y ago
  The CCP is not a race. But everyday Asian Americans (not just Chinese, mind you) have seen a staggering rise[1] in racially motivated crimes because of baseless and intrinsically racist assumptions about their role in COVID[1]. It is difficult to square the latter statistic with claims that our political leaders didn't levy blame at their expense, particularly given their own words[2]. [1]: https://www.nbcnews.com/news/asian-america/anti-asian-hate-crimes-increased-339-percent-nationwide-last-year-repo-rcna14282 https://www.nbcnews.com/news/asian-america/anti-asian-hate-c... [2]: https://www.ucsf.edu/news/2021/03/420081/trumps-chinese-virus-tweet-linked-rise-anti-asian-hashtags-twitter https://www.ucsf.edu/news/2021/03/420081/trumps-chinese-viru...
- stjohnswarts 5y ago
  Obviously. To educated, generally egaliatarian people like you and I that makes sense. However the ignorant uneducated sorts out there on the edge looking for a reason to hate Asians (and others) even more and to attack them for imagined "reasons". That's why people say hold up and wait for some proof. The far right and other racist groups love this stuff and we can see that in the 3-5x increase in violence towards Asians in cities all over the country.
  - genousti 5y ago
    Can you link us a mosaique of all the perpetrators of asian violence? Id like to see those far right racists. Im asian and my wife is too we were in new york. The perpetrators were clearly not trump voters.
    - ceejayoz 5y ago
      It's a little ironic to be talking about racism, and then claim you can visually identify a "far right racist" in this way.
- btgeekboy 5y ago
  The accusations are not against Asians. But the inciteful rhetoric has coincided with an uptick in hate crimes against Asians. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7364747/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7364747/

innocentoldguy 5y ago

The CCP isn't a "race of people" any more than the federal government is. I could be wrong, but I don't remember a single accusation being leveled at Asians. I do recall a lot of accusations being leveled at the CCP and also the US federal government though.

woodruffw 5y ago
The CCP is not a race. But everyday Asian Americans (not just Chinese, mind you) have seen a staggering rise[1] in racially motivated crimes because of baseless and intrinsically racist assumptions about their role in COVID[1]. It is difficult to square the latter statistic with claims that our political leaders didn't levy blame at their expense, particularly given their own words[2]. [1]: https://www.nbcnews.com/news/asian-america/anti-asian-hate-crimes-increased-339-percent-nationwide-last-year-repo-rcna14282 https://www.nbcnews.com/news/asian-america/anti-asian-hate-c... [2]: https://www.ucsf.edu/news/2021/03/420081/trumps-chinese-virus-tweet-linked-rise-anti-asian-hashtags-twitter https://www.ucsf.edu/news/2021/03/420081/trumps-chinese-viru...
stjohnswarts 5y ago
Obviously. To educated, generally egaliatarian people like you and I that makes sense. However the ignorant uneducated sorts out there on the edge looking for a reason to hate Asians (and others) even more and to attack them for imagined "reasons". That's why people say hold up and wait for some proof. The far right and other racist groups love this stuff and we can see that in the 3-5x increase in violence towards Asians in cities all over the country.
- genousti 5y ago
  Can you link us a mosaique of all the perpetrators of asian violence? Id like to see those far right racists. Im asian and my wife is too we were in new york. The perpetrators were clearly not trump voters.
  - ceejayoz 5y ago
    It's a little ironic to be talking about racism, and then claim you can visually identify a "far right racist" in this way.
btgeekboy 5y ago
The accusations are not against Asians. But the inciteful rhetoric has coincided with an uptick in hate crimes against Asians. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7364747/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7364747/