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Yes, and that's supported (albeit weakly) by the fact that 3 researchers at the Wuhan lab became sick with flu-like symptoms in November 2019: https://www.webmd

Yes, and that's supported (albeit weakly) by the fact that 3 researchers at the Wuhan lab became sick with flu-like symptoms in November 2019: https://www.webmd.com/lung/news/20210524/wuhan-lab-researchers-illness https://www.webmd.com/lung/news/20210524/wuhan-lab-researche...

snickerbockers 5y ago
That doesn't necessarily mean anything, I also became sick with flu-like symptoms in November 2019. 3 people could very well be one guy showing up to work when he should've called in sick and then coughing at a meeting.
weaksauce 5y ago
> 3 researchers at the Wuhan lab became sick with flu-like symptoms in November 2019 So 3 out of 300 researchers probably got the flu during flu season? is that low or high for a typical facility of 300 people during flu season? (300 as of 2014 maybe more now? https://www.nature.com/articles/nj0447 https://www.nature.com/articles/nj0447) > He said the lab was “very well-run” and the researchers didn’t show evidence of COVID-19 antibodies. That counters the assertion that it was covid. Let's pretend that they did in fact have covid and the antibody tests were wrong or they are lying. Is it that surprising that they would get it if it was the ground 0 for covid which spread like wildfire there regardless of original origin?
- tzs 5y ago
  I think people imagine that the way virus research labs work is that when you start a research program you go into the lab, and then you stay in the lab 24/7 until your research is done, having no contact with people other than fellow researchers working on the same project. When your research is done, you go through decontamination and quarantine before being let out. In reality, of course, it is like most other jobs. You arrive in the morning, work for the day, and go home. You break for lunch. Maybe you have lunch in a lunch room or cafeteria the employer provides, maybe you go out. In either case you are around plenty of other people. Your chances of getting colds and flu during cold and flu season as a worker at a virus lab or about the same as the chances of any other worker at a similar sized white collar job in the same city.
roywiggins 5y ago
I guess the real question is, how many came down with flu symptoms in November 2018? Or 2017?
- phyalow 5y ago
  Or how many were deleted from the Wuhan institutes website and memory-holed permanently. Look up Huang Yanling a WIV researcher who dissapeared off the face of the earth in December 2019. https://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/covid-19-coronavirus-wuhan-virus-lab-scientist-thought-to-be-patient-zero-still-missing/VA4TIO726U7P36ZQG2WLHDDTNA/ https://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/covid-19-coronavirus-wuhan-...

snickerbockers 5y ago

That doesn't necessarily mean anything, I also became sick with flu-like symptoms in November 2019. 3 people could very well be one guy showing up to work when he should've called in sick and then coughing at a meeting.

weaksauce 5y ago

> 3 researchers at the Wuhan lab became sick with flu-like symptoms in November 2019 So 3 out of 300 researchers probably got the flu during flu season? is that low or high for a typical facility of 300 people during flu season? (300 as of 2014 maybe more now? https://www.nature.com/articles/nj0447 https://www.nature.com/articles/nj0447) > He said the lab was “very well-run” and the researchers didn’t show evidence of COVID-19 antibodies. That counters the assertion that it was covid. Let's pretend that they did in fact have covid and the antibody tests were wrong or they are lying. Is it that surprising that they would get it if it was the ground 0 for covid which spread like wildfire there regardless of original origin?

tzs 5y ago
I think people imagine that the way virus research labs work is that when you start a research program you go into the lab, and then you stay in the lab 24/7 until your research is done, having no contact with people other than fellow researchers working on the same project. When your research is done, you go through decontamination and quarantine before being let out. In reality, of course, it is like most other jobs. You arrive in the morning, work for the day, and go home. You break for lunch. Maybe you have lunch in a lunch room or cafeteria the employer provides, maybe you go out. In either case you are around plenty of other people. Your chances of getting colds and flu during cold and flu season as a worker at a virus lab or about the same as the chances of any other worker at a similar sized white collar job in the same city.

roywiggins 5y ago

I guess the real question is, how many came down with flu symptoms in November 2018? Or 2017?

phyalow 5y ago
Or how many were deleted from the Wuhan institutes website and memory-holed permanently. Look up Huang Yanling a WIV researcher who dissapeared off the face of the earth in December 2019. https://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/covid-19-coronavirus-wuhan-virus-lab-scientist-thought-to-be-patient-zero-still-missing/VA4TIO726U7P36ZQG2WLHDDTNA/ https://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/covid-19-coronavirus-wuhan-...