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This has always seemed like a plausible scenario to me for the origin of this virus. It's just too bad it might have occurred in China, considering their govern

This has always seemed like a plausible scenario to me for the origin of this virus. It's just too bad it might have occurred in China, considering their government's propensity for dishonesty and suppressing information. I wonder what the handling/research would have been like if it had leaked from a lab in another country, like the US or Canada for example. Would those governments have been more forthright if one of their labs were to blame?

firecall 5y ago
> Would those governments have been more forthright if one of their labs were to blame? I'd say maybe not. But the Chinese are a lot better at suppression! Defenestration is a very effective tool....
323 5y ago
US health experts (Fauci, Collins) and UK ones (Jeremy Farrar) were also trying to suppress the lab leak hypothesis, as evidenced by the FOIA emails.
- 6nf 5y ago
  I think a lot of people now believe that the lab leak theory is the most likely explanation
  - WalterGR 5y ago
    Many people are saying that?
    - ejb999 5y ago
      Yes they are - sometimes the most obvious explanation is the simplest one: it leaked from a lab. If radioactive animals were found running around outside a nuclear power plant in the USA, would anyone believe the owners of the nuclear power plant saying that that was probably a coincidence and the plant never had a leak? Probably not. If radioactive animals were found running around outside a Chinese nuclear plant - what would their government say?
vmception 5y ago
Nearly every government on the planet under every governing system has experienced some dishonesty and information suppression over the pandemic, its hard to say which place would have been better “But at least people would be able to talk about it” thats the goto() rebuttal amirite?
- systemvoltage 5y ago
  > Nearly every government on the planet under every governing system has experienced some dishonesty and information suppression Yes, but the Chinese government is especially known and openly, blatantly and ruthlessly supresses information. If this situation happened in US, UK, Europe, Australia, Canada, and other less developed nations, it would have been far more transparent and impossible to cover up.

firecall 5y ago

> Would those governments have been more forthright if one of their labs were to blame? I'd say maybe not. But the Chinese are a lot better at suppression! Defenestration is a very effective tool....

323 5y ago

US health experts (Fauci, Collins) and UK ones (Jeremy Farrar) were also trying to suppress the lab leak hypothesis, as evidenced by the FOIA emails.

6nf 5y ago
I think a lot of people now believe that the lab leak theory is the most likely explanation
- WalterGR 5y ago
  Many people are saying that?
  - ejb999 5y ago
    Yes they are - sometimes the most obvious explanation is the simplest one: it leaked from a lab. If radioactive animals were found running around outside a nuclear power plant in the USA, would anyone believe the owners of the nuclear power plant saying that that was probably a coincidence and the plant never had a leak? Probably not. If radioactive animals were found running around outside a Chinese nuclear plant - what would their government say?

vmception 5y ago

Nearly every government on the planet under every governing system has experienced some dishonesty and information suppression over the pandemic, its hard to say which place would have been better “But at least people would be able to talk about it” thats the goto() rebuttal amirite?

systemvoltage 5y ago
> Nearly every government on the planet under every governing system has experienced some dishonesty and information suppression Yes, but the Chinese government is especially known and openly, blatantly and ruthlessly supresses information. If this situation happened in US, UK, Europe, Australia, Canada, and other less developed nations, it would have been far more transparent and impossible to cover up.