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People work 10% fewer hours now than in the 1960s, but the obesity rate has gone up from 13% in that time period to 36%. The obesity crisis is IMO more related

People work 10% fewer hours now than in the 1960s, but the obesity rate has gone up from 13% in that time period to 36%. The obesity crisis is IMO more related to what we eat, and an increasingly sedentary lifestyle. https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/AVHWPEUSA065NRUG https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/AVHWPEUSA065NRUG

brailsafe 5y ago
This may be true, but people are probably commuting for vastly more time per day to their suburban wasteland house that can only be driven to, than fewer minutes worked would compensate for, and the money doesn't go as far—possibly because they felt spending $60k on a dumb car, and 9 hours a week in it, was more sensible than spending 2 hours a week in a physical hobby. https://www150.statcan.gc.ca/n1/pub/75-006-x/2019001/article/00002-eng.htm https://www150.statcan.gc.ca/n1/pub/75-006-x/2019001/article...
bradlys 5y ago
People worked different jobs back then and did different things for recreation. Food was also different and so were the wages and cost of living. Plz don’t trivialize it.
diordiderot 5y ago
Not having a wife at home to make meals, because all households _need_ dual incomes 10% is what, ~30 minutes less?
- lariati 5y ago
- rdtwo 5y ago
  Just doing dishes and laundry as well as shopping and cooking is 1.5-2 hours a day. 3 if you add cleaning 5-6 if you add child care
clutchdude 5y ago
Total hours worked in the US has DOUBLED since then. https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/B4701C0A222NBEA https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/B4701C0A222NBEA And more work is done part-time(usually by those are unable to work full time jobs) https://alfred.stlouisfed.org/series?seid=B4701C0A222NBEA&utm_source=series_page&utm_medium=related_content&utm_term=related_resources&utm_campaign=alfred https://alfred.stlouisfed.org/series?seid=B4701C0A222NBEA&ut...
- jdminhbg 5y ago
  > Total hours worked in the US has DOUBLED since then. That chart is not adjusted for population.
  - clutchdude 5y ago
    https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/LFWA64TTUSM647S https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/LFWA64TTUSM647S Working population since 1977 We have have roughly 50% working age population(136mil vs 205mil) https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/B4701C0A222NBEA https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/B4701C0A222NBEA Hours worked is 65% more since 1977(155 257) Or, we're working 15% more per eligible person.
- barry-cotter 5y ago
  Total hours worked by people who are being paid. If you’re working on a farm but you’re a farmer’s wife you’re not being paid. Female liberation resulted in a very large increase in the labor force, a much less drastic rise in hours worked than in paid labor hours.
  - clutchdude 5y ago
    Sadly, I don't have any data to refute that: https://www.stlouisfed.org/open-vault/2019/july/nonfarm-payrolls-why-farmers-not-included https://www.stlouisfed.org/open-vault/2019/july/nonfarm-payr.... That said, I doubt it's enough to offset the growth in population among workers. https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/LFWA64TTUSM647S https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/LFWA64TTUSM647S

brailsafe 5y ago

This may be true, but people are probably commuting for vastly more time per day to their suburban wasteland house that can only be driven to, than fewer minutes worked would compensate for, and the money doesn't go as far—possibly because they felt spending $60k on a dumb car, and 9 hours a week in it, was more sensible than spending 2 hours a week in a physical hobby. https://www150.statcan.gc.ca/n1/pub/75-006-x/2019001/article/00002-eng.htm https://www150.statcan.gc.ca/n1/pub/75-006-x/2019001/article...

bradlys 5y ago

People worked different jobs back then and did different things for recreation. Food was also different and so were the wages and cost of living. Plz don’t trivialize it.

diordiderot 5y ago

Not having a wife at home to make meals, because all households _need_ dual incomes 10% is what, ~30 minutes less?

lariati 5y ago
rdtwo 5y ago
Just doing dishes and laundry as well as shopping and cooking is 1.5-2 hours a day. 3 if you add cleaning 5-6 if you add child care

clutchdude 5y ago

Total hours worked in the US has DOUBLED since then. https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/B4701C0A222NBEA https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/B4701C0A222NBEA And more work is done part-time(usually by those are unable to work full time jobs) https://alfred.stlouisfed.org/series?seid=B4701C0A222NBEA&utm_source=series_page&utm_medium=related_content&utm_term=related_resources&utm_campaign=alfred https://alfred.stlouisfed.org/series?seid=B4701C0A222NBEA&ut...

jdminhbg 5y ago
> Total hours worked in the US has DOUBLED since then. That chart is not adjusted for population.
- clutchdude 5y ago
  https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/LFWA64TTUSM647S https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/LFWA64TTUSM647S Working population since 1977 We have have roughly 50% working age population(136mil vs 205mil) https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/B4701C0A222NBEA https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/B4701C0A222NBEA Hours worked is 65% more since 1977(155 257) Or, we're working 15% more per eligible person.
barry-cotter 5y ago
Total hours worked by people who are being paid. If you’re working on a farm but you’re a farmer’s wife you’re not being paid. Female liberation resulted in a very large increase in the labor force, a much less drastic rise in hours worked than in paid labor hours.
- clutchdude 5y ago
  Sadly, I don't have any data to refute that: https://www.stlouisfed.org/open-vault/2019/july/nonfarm-payrolls-why-farmers-not-included https://www.stlouisfed.org/open-vault/2019/july/nonfarm-payr.... That said, I doubt it's enough to offset the growth in population among workers. https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/LFWA64TTUSM647S https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/LFWA64TTUSM647S