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I can't meaningfully distinguish this from "Trying a free sample at Costco with no intent to buy the product." Aka, who cares?

by jrm4 5y ago

thfuran 5y ago
>I can't meaningfully distinguish this from "Trying a free sample at Costco with no intent to buy the product." Are you serious? >Aka, who cares? Surely the company would rather not waste the money.
- boring_twenties 5y ago
  Not to Godwin the thread, but surely e.g. Nazi Germany would rather not have their factories bombed and their personnel shot at?
  - jrm4 5y ago
    What in the entire fresh heck is this supposed to even mean?
    - boring_twenties 5y ago
      It means that if the company in question is in fact sufficiently morally repugnant, acting counter to their preferences is a good thing.
      - jrm4 5y ago
        haha okay. YES! I literally didn't understand. And misread.
- jrm4 5y ago
  And that is solely the company's problem. You either accept that "people who take your free stuff might not be profitable" or you do a better job screening who you give free stuff to. Zoom exists.
  - thfuran 5y ago
    Yeah, and libraries are suckers too. I mean, they don't even try to check my bag to see if I'm walking out with a bunch of extra books.
    - jrm4 5y ago
      Cute, but nope. With no intent to return the books, that would be theft. The library owns the book and you would be stealing them. Hard to find the crime or tort in the other thing? I've been flown places for interviews, I don't recall ever contractually agreeing to consider working at the place, and I can't imagine how the heck you'd prove that (unless your interviewee was an absolute idiot and tweeted "Woo free trip!"). I suppose you'd be jerk or something if it were a non-profit, but I don't think anyone ought to lose sleep over this high-risk business decision being abused, given the razor thin line between "I'm going to screw this company" and "Oh, looks like this place isn't for me."
Jiro 5y ago
If you walked up to the person at Costco and said "I have no intent to buy the product; will you give me a free sample anyway?" They're likely to say "sure, I don't care". This is not a likely response if you were to do the analogous thing with an interview, particularly one where the company has to spend some resources on it.
- jrm4 5y ago
  Yes. Because free samples are not that costly, so the company doesn't have to be careful. Interviews are, so the company should be careful.
  - Jiro 5y ago
    That's not a refutation of the difference, just an explanation of the difference.

I can't meaningfully distinguish this from "Trying a free sample at Costco with no intent to buy the product." Aka, who cares?

by jrm4 5y ago

I can't meaningfully distinguish this from "Trying a free sample at Costco with no intent to buy the product." Aka, who cares?

thfuran 5y ago

>I can't meaningfully distinguish this from "Trying a free sample at Costco with no intent to buy the product." Are you serious? >Aka, who cares? Surely the company would rather not waste the money.

boring_twenties 5y ago
Not to Godwin the thread, but surely e.g. Nazi Germany would rather not have their factories bombed and their personnel shot at?
- jrm4 5y ago
  What in the entire fresh heck is this supposed to even mean?
  - boring_twenties 5y ago
    It means that if the company in question is in fact sufficiently morally repugnant, acting counter to their preferences is a good thing.
    - jrm4 5y ago
      haha okay. YES! I literally didn't understand. And misread.
jrm4 5y ago
And that is solely the company's problem. You either accept that "people who take your free stuff might not be profitable" or you do a better job screening who you give free stuff to. Zoom exists.
- thfuran 5y ago
  Yeah, and libraries are suckers too. I mean, they don't even try to check my bag to see if I'm walking out with a bunch of extra books.
  - jrm4 5y ago
    Cute, but nope. With no intent to return the books, that would be theft. The library owns the book and you would be stealing them. Hard to find the crime or tort in the other thing? I've been flown places for interviews, I don't recall ever contractually agreeing to consider working at the place, and I can't imagine how the heck you'd prove that (unless your interviewee was an absolute idiot and tweeted "Woo free trip!"). I suppose you'd be jerk or something if it were a non-profit, but I don't think anyone ought to lose sleep over this high-risk business decision being abused, given the razor thin line between "I'm going to screw this company" and "Oh, looks like this place isn't for me."

Jiro 5y ago

If you walked up to the person at Costco and said "I have no intent to buy the product; will you give me a free sample anyway?" They're likely to say "sure, I don't care". This is not a likely response if you were to do the analogous thing with an interview, particularly one where the company has to spend some resources on it.

jrm4 5y ago
Yes. Because free samples are not that costly, so the company doesn't have to be careful. Interviews are, so the company should be careful.
- Jiro 5y ago
  That's not a refutation of the difference, just an explanation of the difference.