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I think "take out" is unnecessarily hyperbolic language. It seems they're stuck on a radio station, not inoperable or dangerous.

by Cd00d 5y ago

hoppyhoppy2 5y ago
Indeed, it seems like an effective way for a radio station to "capture" more listeners!
- willcipriano 5y ago
  WKW 93.4 FM, all ads, all the time.
hedora 5y ago
Also, nav is broken, and presumably emergency broadcast features are hosed as well. I wonder about backup cameras, and various driver assist things. If a Model 3 had an analogous bug, then everything from the windshield washers to the climate control and rear view mirrors would be borked (I'd guess phone-based unlock would be too, at a minimum.) Many Priuses integrate parts of the power train into the radio. I suspect they'd have serious issues too. Of course, what matters is how integrated all this stuff is in a Mazda. That, I don't know.
- jon-wood 5y ago
  > Many Priuses integrate parts of the power train into the radio. I suspect they'd have serious issues too. I’m sorry, they do what now? Why would you even do that?
  - Terry_Roll 5y ago
    Well I used to be able to control the ABS on individual wheels with VAG cars (Audi, Bentley, Skoda & VW) in the mid 00's. I could make a VAG car hand brake turn going into a corner all from a computer remotely, just by switching on the ABS braking on the rear wheel on the opposite side to a turn. I could control the throttle remotely as well. Why are people shocked at the way these global corporations are treating security and privacy? Its only their lawyers that are protecting them.
- twblalock 5y ago
  > Many Priuses integrate parts of the power train into the radio. I suspect they'd have serious issues too. Priuses can display powertrain data on the screen (such as which engines are operating, whether regen is happening, etc.) but I have never seen anything in the screen on any Prius that actually sends control data to the powertrain. > If a Model 3 had an analogous bug, then everything from the windshield washers to the climate control and rear view mirrors would be borked (I'd guess phone-based unlock would be too, at a minimum.) Actually it's possible to phone-unlock and drive a Model 3 with the screen completely turned off or broken. I've done it.

I think "take out" is unnecessarily hyperbolic language. It seems they're stuck on a radio station, not inoperable or dangerous.

by Cd00d 5y ago

I think "take out" is unnecessarily hyperbolic language. It seems they're stuck on a radio station, not inoperable or dangerous.

hoppyhoppy2 5y ago

Indeed, it seems like an effective way for a radio station to "capture" more listeners!

willcipriano 5y ago
WKW 93.4 FM, all ads, all the time.

hedora 5y ago

Also, nav is broken, and presumably emergency broadcast features are hosed as well. I wonder about backup cameras, and various driver assist things. If a Model 3 had an analogous bug, then everything from the windshield washers to the climate control and rear view mirrors would be borked (I'd guess phone-based unlock would be too, at a minimum.) Many Priuses integrate parts of the power train into the radio. I suspect they'd have serious issues too. Of course, what matters is how integrated all this stuff is in a Mazda. That, I don't know.

jon-wood 5y ago
> Many Priuses integrate parts of the power train into the radio. I suspect they'd have serious issues too. I’m sorry, they do what now? Why would you even do that?
- Terry_Roll 5y ago
  Well I used to be able to control the ABS on individual wheels with VAG cars (Audi, Bentley, Skoda & VW) in the mid 00's. I could make a VAG car hand brake turn going into a corner all from a computer remotely, just by switching on the ABS braking on the rear wheel on the opposite side to a turn. I could control the throttle remotely as well. Why are people shocked at the way these global corporations are treating security and privacy? Its only their lawyers that are protecting them.
twblalock 5y ago
> Many Priuses integrate parts of the power train into the radio. I suspect they'd have serious issues too. Priuses can display powertrain data on the screen (such as which engines are operating, whether regen is happening, etc.) but I have never seen anything in the screen on any Prius that actually sends control data to the powertrain. > If a Model 3 had an analogous bug, then everything from the windshield washers to the climate control and rear view mirrors would be borked (I'd guess phone-based unlock would be too, at a minimum.) Actually it's possible to phone-unlock and drive a Model 3 with the screen completely turned off or broken. I've done it.