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Hacker's Political Lawn Sign

16 points by fnazeeri 18y ago

altano 18y ago
Naming one's closed and encrypted wifi network "Obama 2008" strikes me as an awkward way of getting a political message across.
- comatose_kid 18y ago
  Just like putting an 'Obama 2008' sign on your private property is?
- neilc 18y ago
  Personally, I think it's more obnoxious than awkward. I can't see anyone's political views being positively influenced by a WiFi network named "Obama2008".
ryanwaggoner 18y ago
Not to brag or reveal my political leanings, but I had my SSIDs set to RonPaul2008 and VoteRonPaul last fall :-)
vaksel 18y ago
the iuuuy7 is probably McCain's since he himself admitted that he is computer illiterate and needs someone to check his email for him. Thats pretty shocking...how long will it be before he tries to control the internet tubes
- twism 18y ago
  McCains' it would be "linksys"... no padlock
- anamax 18y ago
  Actually, no. His hands/fingers don't work. He not only can't type, he can't tie his shoes, or comb his hair. It happened during a vacation at a Vietnamese hotel. A smart guy like you, who can type and all, could have used a "google" to find this out. But, if you had, you wouldn't have been able to make a witty comment.
  - jfoutz 18y ago
    http://www.synthesisnet.com/mccain.jpg http://www.synthesisnet.com/mccain.jpg I used this thing called "google" to find a handwriting sample. I'd argue if his hands work well enough to write this, they work well enough to do everything you claim he doesn't do himself.
    - anamax 18y ago
      So you're going with "he's lying" (or I am). Should we demand a doctor's report? How can I help you spread the word?
      - jfoutz 18y ago
        You made an assertion. I provided evidence to the contrary. I'd thought a hacker was interested in truth. I think the only way to find truth is by the scientific method, however i also think water is wet.
        anamax 18y ago
        I'm not only interested in the truth, I'm interested in spreading it far and wide. However, you must admit that the handwriting argument isn't airtight. If we're going to smite evil, what's wrong with bringing in the big guns? Or, are you suggesting that we use something more conclusive than medical tests? (Of course, said tests should be performed by a neutral party, preferably recorded. Should it be broadcast as well?) BTW - When do we get to ask Obama about the Annenberg Challenge? After all, it was one of the highlights of his community organizing days.
        jfoutz 18y ago
        Ok. a three parter. this is kinda fun^. Part the first. The desire to spread the truth creates a bias that makes it far more difficult to accept new data with a reasonable weight, because you have a big investment in the old model. For example, it was only yesterday, 1822 that the catholic church finally accepted that the earth revolves around the sun. It took something like 300 years and amazing evidence to reevaluate their position on planetary motion -- spreading the word is an acceleration that results in inertia. So, you should probably stop doing that, or people will think you're very vocal and often wrong. For point number two, handwriting isn't an argument. It's evidence. they are different things. McCain didn't say he couldn't use his hands -- you did. You've been proven wrong and will neither muster an argument against the evedence nor change your opinion. I don't care what McCain can or can't do. I only care that you've been demonstrated to be wrong, and haven't brought any arguments to defend yourself. Frankly, you should be attacking the evidence. Your failing to do so means YOU ARE LOSING! OH NOES! Part 3. How about right now? If somebody is preventing you from asking that question, lmk and i'll call the cops for you d00d. this is america, we gots the freedoms de speeches. ^ it's probably best to ignore this post if you don't breath through your mouth. ^^ ^^ yes. i just made an indirect ad-homonym attack. therefore i rule. QED. ^^^ ^^^ i have to apologize for my non hacker rambling - my editor has been sacked. ^^^^ ^^^^ the remainder of this post shall be about mooses. apparently '*' is a special character. the mooses have replaced them all with '^' the mooses have informed me tom Brocaw types with one finger -- in your face! Waiting with baited breath, jfoutz
jedc 18y ago
Sure that wasn't your WiFi network? :-)
- aasarava 18y ago
  Or an actual campaign-office network?
rsheridan6 18y ago
I'll be glad when the election is over.
- ojbyrne 18y ago
  After reading the article I felt the urge to change my SSID to KillEmAll.
AndyKelley 18y ago
Why do all the hackers embrace Obama? It seems like every tech web site I see has an Obama sticker on there. I would have thought that people who want to start businesses would be Republican, because they have always been the ones who want to make it as painless as possible to start and own a profitable business.
- fnazeeri 18y ago
  It's simple really. People don't exclusively vote their economic interest. For example, Mississippi has the strongest correlation between income and voting and yet 30% of its voters in the poorest income level voted Republican (i.e. against their economic interest). Further, the richest states (CT, MA, CA, etc.) trend Democratic. Here's a good academic study on the topic in case you're interested... www.stat.columbia.edu/~gelman/research/published/rb_qjps.pdf
  - uuilly 18y ago
    I'm not sure it's a forgone conclusion that poor people voting for non-democrats is a vote against their economic interests. Legions of economists would disagree with you on that. To be sure, legions more would agree, but you can hardly take it as a given.
  - AndyKelley 18y ago
    Okay, but that doesn't answer my question. Why does it seem like most hackers have an Obama sticker on their site?
- dhimes 18y ago
  This breed of Republican (laissez-faire, I think it is spelled) is, in my estimation, not the best for small business. It apparently translates to "might makes right" in practice.
- olefoo 18y ago
  People who start businesses want to run them in places where there is political stability and the social contract is relatively intact... 4 more years of (failed|insane|irresponsible) policies will not only bankrupt the nation, but will alienate us from the rest of the world; this is not good for business.
cookiecaper 18y ago
I find that using the clan tag to prepend your preferred candidate is quite effective. I am known as [RonPaul2008]cookiecaper in Quake Wars, and have a Ron Paul spray in TF2. I've heard three or four people say Ron Paul clan signs and sprays influenced them to learn about the dude, so it seems at least somewhat effective.

16 points by fnazeeri 18y ago

Naming one's closed and encrypted wifi network "Obama 2008" strikes me as an awkward way of getting a political message across.

comatose_kid 18y ago
Just like putting an 'Obama 2008' sign on your private property is?
neilc 18y ago
Personally, I think it's more obnoxious than awkward. I can't see anyone's political views being positively influenced by a WiFi network named "Obama2008".

ryanwaggoner 18y ago

Not to brag or reveal my political leanings, but I had my SSIDs set to RonPaul2008 and VoteRonPaul last fall :-)

vaksel 18y ago

the iuuuy7 is probably McCain's since he himself admitted that he is computer illiterate and needs someone to check his email for him. Thats pretty shocking...how long will it be before he tries to control the internet tubes

twism 18y ago
McCains' it would be "linksys"... no padlock
anamax 18y ago
Actually, no. His hands/fingers don't work. He not only can't type, he can't tie his shoes, or comb his hair. It happened during a vacation at a Vietnamese hotel. A smart guy like you, who can type and all, could have used a "google" to find this out. But, if you had, you wouldn't have been able to make a witty comment.
- jfoutz 18y ago
  http://www.synthesisnet.com/mccain.jpg http://www.synthesisnet.com/mccain.jpg I used this thing called "google" to find a handwriting sample. I'd argue if his hands work well enough to write this, they work well enough to do everything you claim he doesn't do himself.
  - anamax 18y ago
    So you're going with "he's lying" (or I am). Should we demand a doctor's report? How can I help you spread the word?
    - jfoutz 18y ago
      You made an assertion. I provided evidence to the contrary. I'd thought a hacker was interested in truth. I think the only way to find truth is by the scientific method, however i also think water is wet.
      - anamax 18y ago
        I'm not only interested in the truth, I'm interested in spreading it far and wide. However, you must admit that the handwriting argument isn't airtight. If we're going to smite evil, what's wrong with bringing in the big guns? Or, are you suggesting that we use something more conclusive than medical tests? (Of course, said tests should be performed by a neutral party, preferably recorded. Should it be broadcast as well?) BTW - When do we get to ask Obama about the Annenberg Challenge? After all, it was one of the highlights of his community organizing days.
        jfoutz 18y ago
        Ok. a three parter. this is kinda fun^. Part the first. The desire to spread the truth creates a bias that makes it far more difficult to accept new data with a reasonable weight, because you have a big investment in the old model. For example, it was only yesterday, 1822 that the catholic church finally accepted that the earth revolves around the sun. It took something like 300 years and amazing evidence to reevaluate their position on planetary motion -- spreading the word is an acceleration that results in inertia. So, you should probably stop doing that, or people will think you're very vocal and often wrong. For point number two, handwriting isn't an argument. It's evidence. they are different things. McCain didn't say he couldn't use his hands -- you did. You've been proven wrong and will neither muster an argument against the evedence nor change your opinion. I don't care what McCain can or can't do. I only care that you've been demonstrated to be wrong, and haven't brought any arguments to defend yourself. Frankly, you should be attacking the evidence. Your failing to do so means YOU ARE LOSING! OH NOES! Part 3. How about right now? If somebody is preventing you from asking that question, lmk and i'll call the cops for you d00d. this is america, we gots the freedoms de speeches. ^ it's probably best to ignore this post if you don't breath through your mouth. ^^ ^^ yes. i just made an indirect ad-homonym attack. therefore i rule. QED. ^^^ ^^^ i have to apologize for my non hacker rambling - my editor has been sacked. ^^^^ ^^^^ the remainder of this post shall be about mooses. apparently '*' is a special character. the mooses have replaced them all with '^' the mooses have informed me tom Brocaw types with one finger -- in your face! Waiting with baited breath, jfoutz

jedc 18y ago

Sure that wasn't your WiFi network? :-)

aasarava 18y ago
Or an actual campaign-office network?

rsheridan6 18y ago

I'll be glad when the election is over.

ojbyrne 18y ago
After reading the article I felt the urge to change my SSID to KillEmAll.

AndyKelley 18y ago

Why do all the hackers embrace Obama? It seems like every tech web site I see has an Obama sticker on there. I would have thought that people who want to start businesses would be Republican, because they have always been the ones who want to make it as painless as possible to start and own a profitable business.

fnazeeri 18y ago
It's simple really. People don't exclusively vote their economic interest. For example, Mississippi has the strongest correlation between income and voting and yet 30% of its voters in the poorest income level voted Republican (i.e. against their economic interest). Further, the richest states (CT, MA, CA, etc.) trend Democratic. Here's a good academic study on the topic in case you're interested... www.stat.columbia.edu/~gelman/research/published/rb_qjps.pdf
- uuilly 18y ago
  I'm not sure it's a forgone conclusion that poor people voting for non-democrats is a vote against their economic interests. Legions of economists would disagree with you on that. To be sure, legions more would agree, but you can hardly take it as a given.
- AndyKelley 18y ago
  Okay, but that doesn't answer my question. Why does it seem like most hackers have an Obama sticker on their site?
dhimes 18y ago
This breed of Republican (laissez-faire, I think it is spelled) is, in my estimation, not the best for small business. It apparently translates to "might makes right" in practice.
olefoo 18y ago
People who start businesses want to run them in places where there is political stability and the social contract is relatively intact... 4 more years of (failed|insane|irresponsible) policies will not only bankrupt the nation, but will alienate us from the rest of the world; this is not good for business.

cookiecaper 18y ago

I find that using the clan tag to prepend your preferred candidate is quite effective. I am known as [RonPaul2008]cookiecaper in Quake Wars, and have a Ron Paul spray in TF2. I've heard three or four people say Ron Paul clan signs and sprays influenced them to learn about the dude, so it seems at least somewhat effective.