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A growing population who needs surgery and psychiatric care is a problem, yes. Increasing acceptance hasn't done anything positive for their depression rates,

A growing population who needs surgery and psychiatric care is a problem, yes. Increasing acceptance hasn't done anything positive for their depression rates, drug use rates, suicide rates, either. So yeah. I don't see this population growing as a good thing for anyone. Im not advocating eradication of them or anything negative. But I do think when we have kids who trend towards narcissistic personality disorder, that the web exacerbates ( https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4301205/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4301205/) And a population that trends autistic (https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2016/11/the-link-between-autism-and-trans-identity/507509/ https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2016/11/the-link-...) That porn culture and identity politics culture sucking them up in a vacuum isn't a positive thing. This isn't something we want to encourage to grow. Incel culture is largely men growing up on porn mad at their inadequacy in obtaining women. Trans culture, at least in part and mostly why it's slanted so far MtF is because autism affects men more than women and they internalized the porn differently in that they'd just tther be the women seen in the porn. Trans and Incel culture are two sides of the same coin Imho. Why do you think trans people call people bigots for not wanting to sleep with them.? Who's thst sound like? Oh yeah.. Incels. Who thinks they're owed sex. Its a political divide of the same base problems.

haswell 5y ago
> Trans culture, at least in part and mostly why it's slanted so far MtF is because autism affects men more than women and they internalized the porn differently Where is this coming from? This is such a reductionist take on an extremely complex issue. If you have studies to share, I’d be interested to read them. If you’re basing your conclusions on extreme subreddits or similar places, I would remind you that Reddit is not a direct reflection of society as a whole. Nor are some of the personalities there a direct reflection of their counterparts in other parts of the real world.
kelseyfrog 5y ago
What would happen to you had positive views about trans people? Would your life be any better or worse?
mftrhu 5y ago
> Increasing acceptance hasn't done anything positive for their depression rates, drug use rates, suicide rates, either. Bold assertion. What are you basing it on, the PIDOOMA institute report? > Trans culture, at least in part and mostly why it's slanted so far MtF is because autism affects men more than women and they internalized the porn differently in that they'd just tther be the women seen in the porn. > Trans and Incel culture are two sides of the same coin Imho. No, you just have no bloody idea what you are talking about, and are blindly parroting talking points that you decided sounded right: you started out with a falsehood, followed by a bunch of not even wrong assertions, throwing in a couple of articles - very loosely related to at most one of your assertions - to give them the appearance of respectability. > Why do you think trans people call people bigots for not wanting to sleep with them.? If you simply cannot control your need to engage in culture war bullshit - targeting an already extremely victimized minority to do so - could you kindly do so in a less boring manner?
- kelseyfrog 5y ago
  I'm on the fence on whether luring people like this out with "tell me more(about your incredibly naive and bigoted takes)" is worth it. On one hand they are clearly bursting at the seams with garbage and cannot hold back at the opportunity to implicate themselves. Never stop an opponent from making an error. On the other hand, it has the potential for readers to mistake their drivel for substantive discourse.
  - notch656a 5y ago
    And thus your disingenuous Socratic method is revealed as not genuine curiosity but rather a veiled method of (in your own words) "luring people."
    - kelseyfrog 5y ago
      I don't owe you (nor anyone) genuine Socratic methodology. This is the internet after all. :) I will happily guide people into earnestly saying terrible things and then point it out. No one is being forced to say anything they don't believe.

haswell 5y ago

> Trans culture, at least in part and mostly why it's slanted so far MtF is because autism affects men more than women and they internalized the porn differently Where is this coming from? This is such a reductionist take on an extremely complex issue. If you have studies to share, I’d be interested to read them. If you’re basing your conclusions on extreme subreddits or similar places, I would remind you that Reddit is not a direct reflection of society as a whole. Nor are some of the personalities there a direct reflection of their counterparts in other parts of the real world.

kelseyfrog 5y ago

What would happen to you had positive views about trans people? Would your life be any better or worse?

mftrhu 5y ago

> Increasing acceptance hasn't done anything positive for their depression rates, drug use rates, suicide rates, either. Bold assertion. What are you basing it on, the PIDOOMA institute report? > Trans culture, at least in part and mostly why it's slanted so far MtF is because autism affects men more than women and they internalized the porn differently in that they'd just tther be the women seen in the porn. > Trans and Incel culture are two sides of the same coin Imho. No, you just have no bloody idea what you are talking about, and are blindly parroting talking points that you decided sounded right: you started out with a falsehood, followed by a bunch of not even wrong assertions, throwing in a couple of articles - very loosely related to at most one of your assertions - to give them the appearance of respectability. > Why do you think trans people call people bigots for not wanting to sleep with them.? If you simply cannot control your need to engage in culture war bullshit - targeting an already extremely victimized minority to do so - could you kindly do so in a less boring manner?

kelseyfrog 5y ago
I'm on the fence on whether luring people like this out with "tell me more(about your incredibly naive and bigoted takes)" is worth it. On one hand they are clearly bursting at the seams with garbage and cannot hold back at the opportunity to implicate themselves. Never stop an opponent from making an error. On the other hand, it has the potential for readers to mistake their drivel for substantive discourse.
- notch656a 5y ago
  And thus your disingenuous Socratic method is revealed as not genuine curiosity but rather a veiled method of (in your own words) "luring people."
  - kelseyfrog 5y ago
    I don't owe you (nor anyone) genuine Socratic methodology. This is the internet after all. :) I will happily guide people into earnestly saying terrible things and then point it out. No one is being forced to say anything they don't believe.