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Yes. It is human work, aka labor. [1] What would you call it? [1] https://www.dictionary.com/browse/labor https://www.dictionary.com/browse/labor

Bancakes 5y ago
A paid hobby, or a side gig. Labor has the context of strain and effort, and I don't want to pay money for bla-bla entertainment.
- xibalba 5y ago
  What do you do for a living? Whatever it is, I will say to you: that's a paid hobby or a side gig. Then I will take the product of your efforts without paying for it. See how that works? Perhaps it would be worth thinking through the consequences of your attitudes if they were applied back to you?
  - Bancakes 5y ago
    Right only I program tangible chips which serve a purpose, and you cannot just take them. Or maybe you fork the open source repos? You're welcome? Like I said, I'm not paying for bla bla entertainment. Whether that means I read a free news site instead, or I circumvent your paywall, it's the same to you because I'm not paying. That's the same reason piracy doesn't cost publishers anything, most people weren't in commerce in the first place.
    - xibalba 5y ago
    - scottiebarnes 5y ago
      > that's the same reason piracy doesn't cost publishers anything, most people weren't in commerce in the first place. There's a subset of users who are able to pay, and were willing to pay, but chose to not pay because the piracy option was available and convenient. If piracy doesn't cost anyone anything, then lets scale the experiment up; lets say piracy is absolutely unpunished and totally legal. That means netflix clones spawn up, Steam clone clients are released, and all content is extremely convenient and accessible for free. What happens to those companies/industries?
      - Bancakes 5y ago
        People keep paying for Spotify premium and YouTube red. Nothing detrimental in my POV.
        scottiebarnes 5y ago
        Paying for services isn't piracy...so what are you trying to say exactly?
        Bancakes 5y ago
        People still pay on free platforms.
        scottiebarnes 5y ago
        Yeah that's not piracy then is it

Bancakes 5y ago

A paid hobby, or a side gig. Labor has the context of strain and effort, and I don't want to pay money for bla-bla entertainment.

xibalba 5y ago
What do you do for a living? Whatever it is, I will say to you: that's a paid hobby or a side gig. Then I will take the product of your efforts without paying for it. See how that works? Perhaps it would be worth thinking through the consequences of your attitudes if they were applied back to you?
- Bancakes 5y ago
  Right only I program tangible chips which serve a purpose, and you cannot just take them. Or maybe you fork the open source repos? You're welcome? Like I said, I'm not paying for bla bla entertainment. Whether that means I read a free news site instead, or I circumvent your paywall, it's the same to you because I'm not paying. That's the same reason piracy doesn't cost publishers anything, most people weren't in commerce in the first place.
  - xibalba 5y ago
  - scottiebarnes 5y ago
    > that's the same reason piracy doesn't cost publishers anything, most people weren't in commerce in the first place. There's a subset of users who are able to pay, and were willing to pay, but chose to not pay because the piracy option was available and convenient. If piracy doesn't cost anyone anything, then lets scale the experiment up; lets say piracy is absolutely unpunished and totally legal. That means netflix clones spawn up, Steam clone clients are released, and all content is extremely convenient and accessible for free. What happens to those companies/industries?
    - Bancakes 5y ago
      People keep paying for Spotify premium and YouTube red. Nothing detrimental in my POV.
      - scottiebarnes 5y ago
        Paying for services isn't piracy...so what are you trying to say exactly?
        Bancakes 5y ago
        People still pay on free platforms.
        scottiebarnes 5y ago
        Yeah that's not piracy then is it