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Rome Formatter and Rust Update

48 points by hardwaregeek 5y ago

activitypea 5y ago
I know that "Rome wasn't built in a day" is part of the joke, but this project feels stuck in development hell.
- davidjfelix 5y ago
  seriously -- their development churn makes yarn and npm development look hypersonic.
- o_m 5y ago
  Since starting the project they have gotten a new competitor, which is Deno. They are much of the same and are also using Rust. https://deno.land/manual@v1.18.2/tools https://deno.land/manual@v1.18.2/tools
- shados 5y ago
  They even lost one of their founders, which doesn't bode super well.
- mlajtos 5y ago
  It really seems that way, but finding good foundations/abstractions is crucial if you are building such megalomaniac project that should cover all JS/TS tooling. It seems they feel pretty good with what they found (Rust & some form of CST) and they will drop formatter soon. We'll see if these foundations will last at least 1000 years.
sfvisser 5y ago
> But why create a new formatter? When we began our Rust rewrite, we fell in love with rustfmt, Rust’s own formatter. It formatted code instantly, unlike JavaScript formatters which could often take quite a few seconds on larger files. I write quite a bit of Rust and quite a bit of TypeScript and use both rustfmt and prettier. I really like both tools, but don’t think rustfmt is much faster honestly. I would probably say prettier in VSCode feels a bit more responsive.
- maga 5y ago
  If it's speed you are looking for, give dprint (https://github.com/dprint/dprint https://github.com/dprint/dprint) a try, it has a vscode plugin too.
maga 5y ago
Why not dprint[1]? Does it not "produce a concrete syntax tree (CST) that represents the original code completely, whitespace, comments and all"? I'm not terribly familiar with the architecture of dprint, but it's used in Deno with JS/TS plugin and works great so far. [1] https://github.com/dprint/dprint https://github.com/dprint/dprint
akmittal 5y ago
I hardly understand the purpose of it. Never had any issue with prettier speed. The compilation speed is already solved by eslint. Looks like they are creating a unified alternative of prettier,eslint, webpack?. If so why not just fork all these and build on top of that.
seumars 5y ago
Sounds like the announcement of an announcement is being written in Rust then.
pictur 5y ago
this project will either be very successful or end really fast. I don't see any other option

48 points by hardwaregeek 5y ago

activitypea 5y ago

I know that "Rome wasn't built in a day" is part of the joke, but this project feels stuck in development hell.

davidjfelix 5y ago
seriously -- their development churn makes yarn and npm development look hypersonic.
o_m 5y ago
Since starting the project they have gotten a new competitor, which is Deno. They are much of the same and are also using Rust. https://deno.land/manual@v1.18.2/tools https://deno.land/manual@v1.18.2/tools
shados 5y ago
They even lost one of their founders, which doesn't bode super well.
mlajtos 5y ago
It really seems that way, but finding good foundations/abstractions is crucial if you are building such megalomaniac project that should cover all JS/TS tooling. It seems they feel pretty good with what they found (Rust & some form of CST) and they will drop formatter soon. We'll see if these foundations will last at least 1000 years.

sfvisser 5y ago

> But why create a new formatter? When we began our Rust rewrite, we fell in love with rustfmt, Rust’s own formatter. It formatted code instantly, unlike JavaScript formatters which could often take quite a few seconds on larger files. I write quite a bit of Rust and quite a bit of TypeScript and use both rustfmt and prettier. I really like both tools, but don’t think rustfmt is much faster honestly. I would probably say prettier in VSCode feels a bit more responsive.

maga 5y ago
If it's speed you are looking for, give dprint (https://github.com/dprint/dprint https://github.com/dprint/dprint) a try, it has a vscode plugin too.

maga 5y ago

Why not dprint[1]? Does it not "produce a concrete syntax tree (CST) that represents the original code completely, whitespace, comments and all"? I'm not terribly familiar with the architecture of dprint, but it's used in Deno with JS/TS plugin and works great so far. [1] https://github.com/dprint/dprint https://github.com/dprint/dprint

akmittal 5y ago

I hardly understand the purpose of it. Never had any issue with prettier speed. The compilation speed is already solved by eslint. Looks like they are creating a unified alternative of prettier,eslint, webpack?. If so why not just fork all these and build on top of that.

seumars 5y ago

Sounds like the announcement of an announcement is being written in Rust then.

pictur 5y ago

this project will either be very successful or end really fast. I don't see any other option