3 ms·

> The problem is they also came up against vile, populist hate about Syrian immigrants, Romanian neighbours, people not speaking english on buses, fake news abo

> The problem is they also came up against vile, populist hate about Syrian immigrants, Romanian neighbours, people not speaking english on buses, fake news about pillow regulations; Except there is some truth/validity in all of these - they are proxies. The pillow/banana stuff was about over-regulation by the EU. People not speaking the native language on buses is an indication of a a loss of British culture (people will be generally protective of their own culture). Romanian neighbours is about a fear of losing one's low-paying job to an immigrant. These are all valid worries of many people in the UK. Calling them "vile", "populist" is what I'm talking about with regard to remain arrogance. Ignore voter's fears at your peril.

unfocussed_mike 5y ago
The pillow stuff was fraudulent, sorry. You can't hold up a bed pillow and say all these regulations cover pillows when almost all of the uses of the word "pillow" were from engineering safety regulations (pillow blocks etc.) The Syrian immigration thing was based on a lie (and about specific fearmongering concerning Turkey's supposed accession to the EU -- a process that has entirely stalled and is even in reverse because Turkey cannot join the EU until it satisfies the EU's demands). It was backed up by one of the most despicable political leaflets in British history: https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/eu-referendum-vote-leave-accused-of-fanning-the-flames-of-division-after-publishing-controversial-map-a7067701.html https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/eu-referendum... (I received this pamphlet and it remains the only thing I have ever ceremonially burned while cursing people) They were vile, populist-oriented slurs. It was awful, disgusting politics.
- CodeGlitch 5y ago
  > The pillow stuff was fraudulent, sorry. That's why I said they were proxies - please read what I wrote again.
  - unfocussed_mike 5y ago
    It wasn't a proxy; it was a deception.

unfocussed_mike 5y ago

The pillow stuff was fraudulent, sorry. You can't hold up a bed pillow and say all these regulations cover pillows when almost all of the uses of the word "pillow" were from engineering safety regulations (pillow blocks etc.) The Syrian immigration thing was based on a lie (and about specific fearmongering concerning Turkey's supposed accession to the EU -- a process that has entirely stalled and is even in reverse because Turkey cannot join the EU until it satisfies the EU's demands). It was backed up by one of the most despicable political leaflets in British history: https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/eu-referendum-vote-leave-accused-of-fanning-the-flames-of-division-after-publishing-controversial-map-a7067701.html https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/eu-referendum... (I received this pamphlet and it remains the only thing I have ever ceremonially burned while cursing people) They were vile, populist-oriented slurs. It was awful, disgusting politics.

CodeGlitch 5y ago
> The pillow stuff was fraudulent, sorry. That's why I said they were proxies - please read what I wrote again.
- unfocussed_mike 5y ago
  It wasn't a proxy; it was a deception.