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The whole Jan 6 thing is a complete joke. Many people outside the USA can not even understand why this is still a thing people talk about, compare it to terrori

by noxer 5y ago

The whole Jan 6 thing is a complete joke. Many people outside the USA can not even understand why this is still a thing people talk about, compare it to terrorism and even to the 9/11 attacks. Its completely insane. I remember 9/11 from outside USA. It "broke" the normal way people lived their life. Jan 6 on the other hand did nothing, no one cared. Only US propaganda media made a huge deal out of it. And they keep talking about the 768 (an more) people who have been charged as if they where charged for terrorism or something. Most of them simply got charged for entering a restricted building. Comparing this to a terrorist attack that took the life of 3000 people and injured at least 6000 other is grotesque and disgusting.

selfhoster11 5y ago
That's because Jan 6 turned into a failed, and very incompetently executed attempt at a coup. 9/11 may have been devastating in many ways, but Jan 6 was an attack at the very structure of the American democracy. They tried to install a leader of the country who wasn't actually the one elected by the majority. If they succeeded, it would be a major blow to American credibility and founding story of a "democratic nation by the people, for the people".
- noxer 5y ago
  > That's because Jan 6 turned into a failed, and very incompetently executed attempt at a coup. You gotta be kidding me and/or yourself. Do you really believable that? This was a rather normal protest march which escalated to a riot where a small fraction of the people probably 100-200 resorted to various forms of violence mostly against property and to an extend against police. No question this is bad. But a coup? Really? Installing a leader, lol what? Reality check: If an heavy armed group would have stormed the capitols and killed everyone inside that would not have installed a leader and that would be an actual terrorist act. Still there is no logical path how that would/could have changed whos the next president. There is no evidence that any group of people went there with this goal (to violently install a leader). The vast majority was just there to protest and didn't do anything wrong. From the 700+ people charged the majority was just foolish and entered the building/property after police gave up or where overpowered by the actual violent people. There are plenty videos from inside the capitol where people just walk around. These videos were used to charge them but given the fact that they just walk around they basically are trespassing and cant be charged for much. Most of the 700+ charges are non-violent. One person died because she was shot by the police some others died do to medial reasons. Some injuries and property damage as you would expect from a riot. Calling this a coup is absurd. America would be the last place where people start a coup unarmed. I would advice you to watch some of the live streams from that day and/or read some foreign news articles about it and make sure you know about all the debunked misinformation tied to the riot. From X people who got killed to a police officer being murdered to bombs it really had it all and most old articles you find about it still are not corrected.

by noxer 5y ago

selfhoster11 5y ago

That's because Jan 6 turned into a failed, and very incompetently executed attempt at a coup. 9/11 may have been devastating in many ways, but Jan 6 was an attack at the very structure of the American democracy. They tried to install a leader of the country who wasn't actually the one elected by the majority. If they succeeded, it would be a major blow to American credibility and founding story of a "democratic nation by the people, for the people".

noxer 5y ago
> That's because Jan 6 turned into a failed, and very incompetently executed attempt at a coup. You gotta be kidding me and/or yourself. Do you really believable that? This was a rather normal protest march which escalated to a riot where a small fraction of the people probably 100-200 resorted to various forms of violence mostly against property and to an extend against police. No question this is bad. But a coup? Really? Installing a leader, lol what? Reality check: If an heavy armed group would have stormed the capitols and killed everyone inside that would not have installed a leader and that would be an actual terrorist act. Still there is no logical path how that would/could have changed whos the next president. There is no evidence that any group of people went there with this goal (to violently install a leader). The vast majority was just there to protest and didn't do anything wrong. From the 700+ people charged the majority was just foolish and entered the building/property after police gave up or where overpowered by the actual violent people. There are plenty videos from inside the capitol where people just walk around. These videos were used to charge them but given the fact that they just walk around they basically are trespassing and cant be charged for much. Most of the 700+ charges are non-violent. One person died because she was shot by the police some others died do to medial reasons. Some injuries and property damage as you would expect from a riot. Calling this a coup is absurd. America would be the last place where people start a coup unarmed. I would advice you to watch some of the live streams from that day and/or read some foreign news articles about it and make sure you know about all the debunked misinformation tied to the riot. From X people who got killed to a police officer being murdered to bombs it really had it all and most old articles you find about it still are not corrected.