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Lisp in Production: an interview with the guys behind Nyxt Browser [video]

105 points by pedrodelfino 5y ago

ilrwbwrkhv 5y ago
why is nyxt not on homebrew?
- sa1 5y ago
  There are some issues building webkit-gtk2 on mac, there's no stable package so far. If anybody gets it building reliably, it might make it to homebrew.
  - smoldesu 5y ago
    They say the greatest trick the devil ever played was convincing man that GNOME developers might one day fix the outstanding issues with GTK2/3...
medo-bear 5y ago
this is such an interesting project. three things i would love to see is a proper privacy focused with tor option version; a pdf reader; integration with org-roam
- ssivark 5y ago
  Why replicate a PDF reader in-browser when it would be really easy to hook it up to pass PDFs to a plethora of system applications? As for integration with org/roam, I agree — there’s a lot of potential there, and it’s at an ideal stage for people to get involved and experiment with a variety of approaches.
  - medo-bear 5y ago
    the reason for pdf integration is precisely integration with org/roam. i read a lot of pdfs and emacs pdf reader does not do smooth scrolling, which is a bit of an annoyance. having this feature available will solve that. plus nyxt has awesome page searching capabilities
    - TheFreim 5y ago
      > emacs pdf reader does not do smooth scrolling I have had this[0] bookmarked for a while now, never got around to setting it up. Maybe this can be helpful (there do seem to be some quirks according to the readme). 0. https://github.com/dalanicolai/pdf-continuous-scroll-mode.el https://github.com/dalanicolai/pdf-continuous-scroll-mode.el
      - medo-bear 5y ago
        cheers! i will have a look
- NAR8789 5y ago
  > integration with org-roam looks like someone has already implemented this: https://www.reddit.com/r/emacs/comments/orgzoc/org_roam_and_nyxt_taking_zettelkasten_notes_from/ https://www.reddit.com/r/emacs/comments/orgzoc/org_roam_and_... I'm curious to try it but I'm not well-enough versed with nyxt yet
ZeroGravitas 5y ago
Hadn't heard of Nyxt and looks like my kind of thing, though I'm more of a vim person, can anyone give a comparison to tridactyl etc?
- jolmg 5y ago
  > though I'm more of a vim person You can set vi keybindings.
- pedrodelfino 5y ago
  There is a whole article comparing Nyxt to plug-ins (such as tridactyl): https://nyxt.atlas.engineer/article/nyxt-versus-plugins.org https://nyxt.atlas.engineer/article/nyxt-versus-plugins.org
  - ZeroGravitas 5y ago
    That's useful, though I'll note that tridactyl has an optional 'native' plugin that can provide the connect to native benefits. I'm actually hoping tridactyl will follow neovim and embrace js more (similar to lua in neovim). So not a great sales pitch for me specifically, but still sounds like a step forward for turning browsers back into user agents for power users and programmers.
    - bovine3dom 5y ago
      Where would you like to see Tridactyl use more JS? We already have `:js` and `:jsb` along with a few commands that accept JS callbacks :)
vindarel 5y ago
On the topic: - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30172641 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30172641 Runnnig Lisp in production (2020) (Grammarly) - interview of Kina Knowledge: https://lisp-journey.gitlab.io/blog/lisp-interview-kina/ https://lisp-journey.gitlab.io/blog/lisp-interview-kina/ (document-processing stack)

105 points by pedrodelfino 5y ago

ilrwbwrkhv 5y ago

why is nyxt not on homebrew?

sa1 5y ago
There are some issues building webkit-gtk2 on mac, there's no stable package so far. If anybody gets it building reliably, it might make it to homebrew.
- smoldesu 5y ago
  They say the greatest trick the devil ever played was convincing man that GNOME developers might one day fix the outstanding issues with GTK2/3...

medo-bear 5y ago

this is such an interesting project. three things i would love to see is a proper privacy focused with tor option version; a pdf reader; integration with org-roam

ssivark 5y ago
Why replicate a PDF reader in-browser when it would be really easy to hook it up to pass PDFs to a plethora of system applications? As for integration with org/roam, I agree — there’s a lot of potential there, and it’s at an ideal stage for people to get involved and experiment with a variety of approaches.
- medo-bear 5y ago
  the reason for pdf integration is precisely integration with org/roam. i read a lot of pdfs and emacs pdf reader does not do smooth scrolling, which is a bit of an annoyance. having this feature available will solve that. plus nyxt has awesome page searching capabilities
  - TheFreim 5y ago
    > emacs pdf reader does not do smooth scrolling I have had this[0] bookmarked for a while now, never got around to setting it up. Maybe this can be helpful (there do seem to be some quirks according to the readme). 0. https://github.com/dalanicolai/pdf-continuous-scroll-mode.el https://github.com/dalanicolai/pdf-continuous-scroll-mode.el
    - medo-bear 5y ago
      cheers! i will have a look
NAR8789 5y ago
> integration with org-roam looks like someone has already implemented this: https://www.reddit.com/r/emacs/comments/orgzoc/org_roam_and_nyxt_taking_zettelkasten_notes_from/ https://www.reddit.com/r/emacs/comments/orgzoc/org_roam_and_... I'm curious to try it but I'm not well-enough versed with nyxt yet

ZeroGravitas 5y ago

Hadn't heard of Nyxt and looks like my kind of thing, though I'm more of a vim person, can anyone give a comparison to tridactyl etc?

jolmg 5y ago
> though I'm more of a vim person You can set vi keybindings.
pedrodelfino 5y ago
There is a whole article comparing Nyxt to plug-ins (such as tridactyl): https://nyxt.atlas.engineer/article/nyxt-versus-plugins.org https://nyxt.atlas.engineer/article/nyxt-versus-plugins.org
- ZeroGravitas 5y ago
  That's useful, though I'll note that tridactyl has an optional 'native' plugin that can provide the connect to native benefits. I'm actually hoping tridactyl will follow neovim and embrace js more (similar to lua in neovim). So not a great sales pitch for me specifically, but still sounds like a step forward for turning browsers back into user agents for power users and programmers.
  - bovine3dom 5y ago
    Where would you like to see Tridactyl use more JS? We already have `:js` and `:jsb` along with a few commands that accept JS callbacks :)

vindarel 5y ago

On the topic: - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30172641 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30172641 Runnnig Lisp in production (2020) (Grammarly) - interview of Kina Knowledge: https://lisp-journey.gitlab.io/blog/lisp-interview-kina/ https://lisp-journey.gitlab.io/blog/lisp-interview-kina/ (document-processing stack)