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The power of touch, especially for men (2017)
- toyg 5y agoAny chance of un-paywalled versions, for us poor souls still believing in freedom of information...?
- rei_ayanami 5y agoInstall browser extension: https://github.com/iamadamdev/bypass-paywalls-chrome https://github.com/iamadamdev/bypass-paywalls-chrome , there is extension for firefox, chrome and edge in that link.
- toyg 5y agoThank you, that works.
- throwjs51009 5y agouBlock Origin works for nytimes paywall. It's more trustworthy.
- toyg 5y agoI had that already, but in this case it didn't work for whatever reason.
- xibalba 5y agoDid you mean “free labor”? This “free information” you speak of requires the labor of humans in many forms to publish.
- toyg 5y agoMedia channels get paid even when they are free: in goodwill, reputation, visibility, etc etc - all that stuff they are so keen to bestow on their workers in the lower organizational rings. Regardless, the guilt trip you're so keen to induce would maybe trigger if I could pay these folks by article, rather than with feudalistic subscriptions that are notoriously hard to cancel. As it is, my conscience is unblemished.
- rat9988 5y agoArtists are paid by exposition I guess! I'm not sure why using the archive for stealing has become the norm here.
- toyg 5y agoStealing is the wrong word, but then we've had this conversation for 30 years so clearly you know what you're doing. If you must, "freeloading" would probably be a better term. > Artists are paid by exposition I guess! If it allowed them to pick political candidates and set the nation's agenda, yeah, I guess they would be.
- rat9988 5y ago> so clearly you know what you're doing ?? > freeloading No I chose stealing for a reason. Freeloading is not the right term. I'm not a native english speaker, freeloading seems to mean "to impose upon another's generosity or hospitality without sharing in the cost or responsibility involved". It's not the right word to convey my idea.
- toyg 5y agoIt's definitely closer than "stealing", which implies the deprivation of a resource - something that clearly isn't the case in the digital realm. > "to impose upon another's generosity or hospitality without sharing in the cost or responsibility involved" This is precisely what another user here accused me of, so I would say it fits very well.
- Bancakes 5y agoDid you just call article writing labor?
- xibalba 5y agoYes. It is human work, aka labor. [1] What would you call it? [1] https://www.dictionary.com/browse/labor https://www.dictionary.com/browse/labor
- Bancakes 5y agoA paid hobby, or a side gig. Labor has the context of strain and effort, and I don't want to pay money for bla-bla entertainment.
- xibalba 5y agoWhat do you do for a living? Whatever it is, I will say to you: that's a paid hobby or a side gig. Then I will take the product of your efforts without paying for it. See how that works? Perhaps it would be worth thinking through the consequences of your attitudes if they were applied back to you?
- Bancakes 5y agoRight only I program tangible chips which serve a purpose, and you cannot just take them. Or maybe you fork the open source repos? You're welcome? Like I said, I'm not paying for bla bla entertainment. Whether that means I read a free news site instead, or I circumvent your paywall, it's the same to you because I'm not paying. That's the same reason piracy doesn't cost publishers anything, most people weren't in commerce in the first place.
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- drooby 5y agoWe have that. It’s called a public library. Many have subscriptions to paywalled content.
- toyg 5y agoNot a bad suggestion (particularly now that libraries are increasingly digital-oriented), but I doubt I'd find a library in my corner of Northern England that subscribes to the New York Times.
- rejectfinite 5y agohttps://archive.fo/rD6EB https://archive.fo/rD6EB https://web.archive.org/web/20220209122625/https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/05/well/family/gender-men-touch.html https://web.archive.org/web/20220209122625/https://www.nytim... I got these through the browser extension https://github.com/dessant/web-archives https://github.com/dessant/web-archives or just going to the sites and searching. HN is actually how I found out about archive.is/fo/today
- toyg 5y agoThere used to be a "web" link under paywalled sites in HN, pointing to archive.org, but it seems to have gone away.
- cafard 5y agoLike the guy that used to take my wife's NY Times off the steps when he got the chance?
- FooBarBizBazz 5y ago> Indeed, many men self-police their hands around each other. In younger men this manifests in the ubiquitous “No homo!” If you think men police their hands around each other, just wait 'til you see how much they police their hands around women. (There's also the empirical pattern that men show more physical affection with one another in cultures where homosexuality is more off-limits and strictly punished. For reasons that make sense if you stop to think about them. But enough about that...) > There’s a reason the majority of clients seeking private services from the nascent professional cuddling industry are overwhelmingly male In like every interview with a prostitute, they say that a lot of their clients want to spend most of their time talking. And, yes, there's sex, because of course that contributes to those (ersatz?) feelings of closeness and wellbeing they're looking for. So how is this substantially different? Or different from going to a shrink? It sounds to me like these things are all more closely related than we admit. Oh, and, as we all know, most prostitutes' clients are men. Why is none of this a surprise? > men are “more likely than women to report that they received less affection from others than they wanted.” I'll bet rich men and old women break this pattern. Because rich men have something people want, and old women don't. Didn't Donald Trump have a line about that? Something like, "Being rich, being famous -- it's amazing, you can do anything and they love it -- you can grab 'em by the pussy!" I forget exactly, I'm paraphrasing. > the 30 heterosexual undergraduate males interviewed felt safer cuddling, hugging and, especially, confiding in platonic male friends than they did with their girlfriends. These “bromances” provided less judgment and increased “emotional stability, enhanced emotional disclosure, social fulfillment, and better conflict resolution, compared to the emotional lives they shared with girlfriends.” I mean, men don't typically "cuddle" with each other, but yeah, there is male bonding, and some of it is somewhat physical, albeit gender-conjugated. And it's not surprising that men often get along better with their friends (I believe this is called "a boys' club" and "misogyny", when it happens). Not a great comment on the state of heterosexual relationships in 2022 though, is it? I also laugh at this line about there being more "emotional stability" with men ("that's a dog whistle!"), but, uh, yeah, not uncommonly... > "Women have it right," I said [...]. "They find friends or sisters to talk with when things are rough" If "men are defective women" is the only framing you can use to get this published, go ahead, do what you need to do.
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- james_burden 5y agoIn my early 20s I worked in a shitty kitchen with a bunch of Mexicans and Ecuadorians, some of them illegals. I was one of two white people working there. I don't know if it's in their culture to touch a bunch but after awhile we were /always/ smacking each other on the back and leaning on each other or whatever other friendly male touching you could think of. It was seriously awesome therapy for the soul and despite how shitty the job was and how bad I wanted to get out of there for my 1.5 years there I always felt 'wholesome' in a sense that died pretty quick after entering corporate world. I still miss that shitty fucking job.
- neonate 5y agohttps://archive.is/rD6EB https://archive.is/rD6EB