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This would be interesting for the blue / green bubble debate. When you send an emoji, you send an MMS...
by denysvitali 5y ago
This would be interesting for the blue / green bubble debate. When you send an emoji, you send an MMS...
- markus92 5y agoIs that a thing in Swiss? Thought it was all Whatsapp/Telegram there.
- marcus_cemes 5y agoI just learnt of the blue/green debate recently from a MKBHD video. WhatsApp is suprisingly prevalient here.
- endofreach 5y agoWhy do you send a MMS when sending an emoji? That doesn‘t make sense to me…
- brirec 5y agoTo my knowledge you don’t. But SMS messages natively only use 7-bit ASCII. Sending emojis requires both carrier and device/OS support, because it’s impossible to represent an emoji using pure 7-bit ASCII. As an aside, Unicode SMS messages fit far fewer characters per message (around 70 as opposed to 160), so most mobile devices still default to 7-bit ASCII unless the message can’t be represented as such.
- prmoustache 5y agoAnytime you send something in utf-8 you send an mms if my memory is correct. SMS only works with ASCII and thus english language.
- dotancohen 5y agoI'm pretty sure that I was sending Hebrew SMS messages before I had an MMS-capable device or service. Circa 2001 or so.
- kalleboo 5y agoSMS natively supports three encoding schemes: 7-bit GSM (English+Nordic+Uppercase Greek), 8-bit national encodings, and Unicode UCS-2 (although modern devices use UTF-16 in the UCS-2 mode)
- darkwater 5y agoThat's just a USA thing, rest of the world use 3rd party platforms to chat.
- vinay427 5y agoPlease don't assume that wherever you live is the same as the rest of the world. SMS messages are not exactly unusual in Switzerland, and I've had at least a few friends prefer them in most every other country I've been as well. Naturally, MMS are somewhat less common due to WhatsApp's convenience for group and media messages, but conventional text messaging is almost mandatory for many 2FA services such as the vaccine portals in some cantons, banking, etc. For instance, SMS seems to be preferred for online selling platforms in which only a phone number is exchanged. It's strange to add a stranger to your contacts for a one-time transaction, so I've often been contacted by SMS or email.
- andybak 5y agoI think GP was talking about the ubuiquity of iMessage as a "US-only thing".
- vinay427 5y agoRight, I assumed that was the main intent but was responding more to the specific claim that "rest of the world use 3rd party platforms to chat."
- fnomnom 5y agothe main online selling plattform in germany (ebay-kleinanzeigen) has a messenger integrated that everybody just uses for this reason. almost everyything else happens in whatsapp. yes youhave some people on signal/threema/telegram but virtually everybody has whatsapp.
- vinay427 5y agoYep, some Swiss platforms have a similar messaging system but others (e.g. Ricardo.ch, probably the most popular?) just offer contact information instead. It might also help that it's increasingly common to pay over the TWINT mobile payment system created by Swiss banks for which mobile numbers remain the primary identification method for private users, not to mention SMS messages used for transaction confirmations or login codes. Given the default option of a phone number for many of these private sales, an SMS is probably more straightforward than adding a new contact to use another app.
- exikyut 5y agoReally? I accidentally configured Windows Phone to use ASCII instead of UTF-8 for SMS a while back then the first time I tried to send emoji the phone chucked a wobbly and told me it wouldn't send due to a character set error. Once that was fixed everything worked fine, and I don't get the indication I'm sending MMS.