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Both Threema and Signal are the way to go with chat apps, the only advantage Telegram offers are vast groups for specific purposes. Here in Berlin, I'm getting

Both Threema and Signal are the way to go with chat apps, the only advantage Telegram offers are vast groups for specific purposes. Here in Berlin, I'm getting cheap produce through telegram, get alerted to public transport controls (I do have a ticket, but sometimes friends do not), and sell/buy stuff I don't need.

theshrike79 5y ago
Telegram's advantages are a simple bot API and proper moderation tools for large channels.
- krzyk 5y ago
  And an app that is small and fast (and a proper desktop app, not some electron).
  - tentacleuno 5y ago
    I'm consistently surprised when I remind myself that Telegram is a Qt app. It's so out of the norm today, when so many things [I use] are bloated Electron apps.
    - lpcvoid 5y ago
      It's also Qt Widgets based, which is even more interesting IMO. Just really, really good engineering that happened here.
baxuz 5y ago
Other advantages: -not being tied to a phone number -having a desktop app which doesn't suck (sync issues, connection issues, lacking features, is basically a simple proxy for your phone, etc) -allows me to use 3rd party apps -having chat history synced across my apps and devices and backed up. History is immensely important
- gefhfffh 5y ago
  Checkout Element, it covers all that as well. However, the Desktop App is Electron, so I don't know if you are OK with that
  - lpcvoid 5y ago
    This is the main problem with Matrix for me. If they would just develop a good desktop client, I would be all over it.
    - bilal4hmed 5y ago
      Have you tried some of the alternatives like fluffychat ? I feel their UI is far ahead of the official clients
      - lpcvoid 5y ago
        Actually, no. Thanks for the hint, I'll be testing that soon :)
Tenoke 5y ago
Funnily enough given the title, those same things have even bigger groups on Facebook than telegram in Berlin even accounting for how popular it is here.
gefhfffh 5y ago
TBH I would consider Matrix the way to go regarding chat. It allows app and vendor independent communication and combines e2ee with Synchronisation across arbitrary many devices (something that many people like from Telegram). These days, Threema and Signal don't support the Matrix Protocol.
PicassoCTs 5y ago
"Die Fahrscheine bitte! Schwarzfahren ist eine Straftat"

theshrike79 5y ago

Telegram's advantages are a simple bot API and proper moderation tools for large channels.

krzyk 5y ago
And an app that is small and fast (and a proper desktop app, not some electron).
- tentacleuno 5y ago
  I'm consistently surprised when I remind myself that Telegram is a Qt app. It's so out of the norm today, when so many things [I use] are bloated Electron apps.
  - lpcvoid 5y ago
    It's also Qt Widgets based, which is even more interesting IMO. Just really, really good engineering that happened here.

baxuz 5y ago

Other advantages: -not being tied to a phone number -having a desktop app which doesn't suck (sync issues, connection issues, lacking features, is basically a simple proxy for your phone, etc) -allows me to use 3rd party apps -having chat history synced across my apps and devices and backed up. History is immensely important

gefhfffh 5y ago
Checkout Element, it covers all that as well. However, the Desktop App is Electron, so I don't know if you are OK with that
- lpcvoid 5y ago
  This is the main problem with Matrix for me. If they would just develop a good desktop client, I would be all over it.
  - bilal4hmed 5y ago
    Have you tried some of the alternatives like fluffychat ? I feel their UI is far ahead of the official clients
    - lpcvoid 5y ago
      Actually, no. Thanks for the hint, I'll be testing that soon :)

Tenoke 5y ago

Funnily enough given the title, those same things have even bigger groups on Facebook than telegram in Berlin even accounting for how popular it is here.

gefhfffh 5y ago

TBH I would consider Matrix the way to go regarding chat. It allows app and vendor independent communication and combines e2ee with Synchronisation across arbitrary many devices (something that many people like from Telegram). These days, Threema and Signal don't support the Matrix Protocol.

PicassoCTs 5y ago

"Die Fahrscheine bitte! Schwarzfahren ist eine Straftat"