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And benzodiapeines withdrawal is insanely painful to overcome. Benzos are bottom of the barrel drugs as far as I'm concerned. The fact that they are still reg

And benzodiapeines withdrawal is insanely painful to overcome. Benzos are bottom of the barrel drugs as far as I'm concerned. The fact that they are still regularly prescribed by some doctors to the elderly (for no other good reason than to get them off their face) is borderline criminal.

Nursie 5y ago
I like them. They make me feel beautifully relaxed and allow me to get a wonderful night’s sleep. I used to take a dose once every week or two, and I would always wake up feeling wonderful. They are horribly addictive and withdrawal can kill, as can OD and mixing with anything else has potential to kill, so clearly they aren’t without issues. But when used in a measured way I found them to be lovely. I’ve never taken Xanax though, it’s a lot longer lasting than the stuff I tried.
- wholinator2 5y ago
  Really? I'd be interested in knowing what it was you had. As far as I understand, xanax is one of the quickest acting benzos on the market. With something like valium being the traditional interpretation of 'long acting'.
  - Nursie 5y ago
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flutazolam https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flutazolam, from Japan. It has an elimination half-life of about 3.5 hours compared to 11-16 for xanax. Valium is around 50 hours IIRC. I also tried etizolam, which has a half-life around 3.5 hours, but its active metabolite has a half-life around 8, so the effect tended to hang around a bit into the next day. Apparently flutazolam also has an active metabolite that lives longer ... but it never seemed apparent. At the time both of these were freely and legally importable into the UK where I lived. This is no longer the case, and that's probably for the best - RC benzo use was getting to epidemic levels. (incidentally, reading up on this, I have realised that xanax is not a lot longer lasting as I initially said, it's actually pretty short acting for a benzodiazepine, around 1.5-2x as long as flutazolam AFAICT)

Nursie 5y ago

I like them. They make me feel beautifully relaxed and allow me to get a wonderful night’s sleep. I used to take a dose once every week or two, and I would always wake up feeling wonderful. They are horribly addictive and withdrawal can kill, as can OD and mixing with anything else has potential to kill, so clearly they aren’t without issues. But when used in a measured way I found them to be lovely. I’ve never taken Xanax though, it’s a lot longer lasting than the stuff I tried.

wholinator2 5y ago
Really? I'd be interested in knowing what it was you had. As far as I understand, xanax is one of the quickest acting benzos on the market. With something like valium being the traditional interpretation of 'long acting'.
- Nursie 5y ago
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flutazolam https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flutazolam, from Japan. It has an elimination half-life of about 3.5 hours compared to 11-16 for xanax. Valium is around 50 hours IIRC. I also tried etizolam, which has a half-life around 3.5 hours, but its active metabolite has a half-life around 8, so the effect tended to hang around a bit into the next day. Apparently flutazolam also has an active metabolite that lives longer ... but it never seemed apparent. At the time both of these were freely and legally importable into the UK where I lived. This is no longer the case, and that's probably for the best - RC benzo use was getting to epidemic levels. (incidentally, reading up on this, I have realised that xanax is not a lot longer lasting as I initially said, it's actually pretty short acting for a benzodiazepine, around 1.5-2x as long as flutazolam AFAICT)